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True, but it should be possible to say the average cost is $10,000 according to the last N similar operations. In the event of something abnormal occurring, you might require an extra $25,000 for this and that, and if the shit hits the fan, expect $250,000 for extreme lifesaving effort.


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To give some color. I haven't heard that marginal costs are ~$5000/day, I have heard they are closer to $20k/day. Granted other procedures were involved, but one ECMO stay was over $12M for 4 months. That is closer to $100k/day.

How many other people could you save (even within the same healthcare system) for that kind of money? These long tails have huge impacts on insurance costs.


Note that some of the life-saving operations listed above a) cost significantly more than $500k and b) are related to ailments that will likely stop you from working on AwesomeApply.io or whatever it is for a potentially indefinite period of time.

Would this really be cheaper? It's an awful lot of man hours committed to just one area vs. a centralized one that can dedicate the time/effort/resources accordingly based on needs and corresponding urgency.

Also one of the bigger question would still be how would these EMTs have their equipment with them + how would quality of care be ensured?


When you account for this, you have to consider how much it would cost to have a human perform the same task.

in the case of imagen, I suppose the cost is at least two orders of magnitude over 500k.

I think you're very confused about the costs required in operating a human... Or are you assuming because the human was going to be doing it anyway the cost is free?

So, roughly the cost of one or two good engineers? Not having backups is penny wise and pound foolish.

...and the cost of those operations?

Cost is to do some task.

Paying for the masks is the big upfront cost - into the $5 to $10s of millions depending on the process node.

Out of curiosity, what costs so much in terms of operations?

It depends. Every case needs to be analyzed and calculated the costs.

What's the operational cost of doing that?

Interesting points, it made me stumble on an article about how much USG regulations generally spend per life saved.

Spoiler: it varies wildly.

Writeup: https://www.thelifeyoucansave.org/blog/id/93/how-much-are-we...

Citing: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=424523

Here are some illustrative examples:

* Consumer Product Safety Commission's (CPSC's) regulation on childproof lighters = $100k

* Federal Aviation Administration rules on airplane cabin fire protection = $300K

* National Highway Transportation and Safety Administration rules on passive restraints and seat belts = $500K

* CPSC's rules on children's sleepwear flammability = $2.2MM

* EPA's rules on fugitive benzene emissions = $3.7MM


You're correct. The question is what is the cost passed on to consumers. If it is something on the order of the cost of medical malpractice insurance and average settlements, well, wow. That would make AV prohibitively expensive.

More likely the bar for level 4 will just be significantly higher than parity with human error, if only for liability reasons.


Making that arrangement safe probably costs more than £1.

I meant cost to the operator... ;)

i.e. the labor costs alone are around 1500-3000 €.

Unfortunately it's not clear cut as there is a real human cost to each.
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