I have the exact same experience with AP. I trust it on highways until a merge or lane split is ahead. I think it's so silly that the decision making isn't more robust..
If I can't trust AP with simple road rules, then why bother upgrading to FSD?
I just tried FSD last night in suburban Dallas for the first time with light traffic and it was harrowing. Drove in the wrong lanes, almost hit a trash can, accelerated way too fast on side streets, and it made a right turn at a red light without stopping or even coming close to slowing down. This was a 3 mile drive.
I've been using autopilot on the freeway for years and that's been mostly fine—but I'm never going to use FSD on streets again.
This. The reason I stopped using FSD was due to traveling at speed on the biggest freeway running through Southern California when it randomly slammed on the breaks for no reason, until I quickly disengaged it. I’m not talking a gentle slow down. It went from 75 to 35 and all passengers getting thrown against their seatbelts and the car behind having to slam on their breaks hard to avoid rear ending me. First time, I thought it was a fluke. 2nd time, along the same route but a completely different place, the car behind had to swerve into the emergency lane to avoid running into me. I vowed never to use it again and join any class action lawsuit against the company regarding this. It’s dangerous AF on its best day.
Driver assist, however, is actually great and perfect for stop and go traffic. But damn that FSD is a literal killer.
Regardless of safety, I won't use FSD because it is too embarrassing when it takes forever to figure out it can safely go. It also drops down to 2mph in my neighborhood to go over a small pot hole, that everyone else would just go around.
Autopilot works better than FSD for me on the freeway. If I turn on FSD I get lots of phantom braking and pretty out of no where lane changes that I'd call pretty abrupt and dangerous. No where near worth 100 dollars a month.
Driving with FSD in mid to moderate traffic is more stressful. Usually drop fsd to AP.
Driving with FSD on empty roads is very enjoyable and whenever it decides to do something you can recover/correct with no stress.
Driving in poor conditions with FSD feels safer, it sees better than me in the dark and rain for sure.
Driving with fsd in heavy traffic about the same as driving a car yourself, this where I usually drop back to AP.
Is driving my tesla easier or harder than another vehicle? It’s much much easier than driving my ICE suv. But from a pure FSD perspective, if the car didn’t have AP I believe my opinion would not be the same.
FSD handles road rules significantly better: the road up to my house has a complicated five-way intersection with a railroad crossing that EAP could never handle. FSD navigates it perfectly. For my 40 minute compute, there are about three spots where there’s predictable road issues that force me to disengage (no safety issue, just the car gets really hesitant) but otherwise it’s obviously an upgrade from non-FSD.
FSD is worse than autopilot, and makes autopilot worse. When you enable FSD, it turns on the cabin camera and applies the same driver attention standard to autopilot. Autopilot is really good! But if FSD is on, it becomes next to useless. You actually have to look at the road all the time!
As of the latest update FSD is not yet FSD, but it’s _way_ more than ADAS. Underestimate it at your own peril. It behaves like an experienced, if too timid, driver.
FSD does way more than glorified lane centering. It legitimately drives the car through city streets. It doesn't do it reliably enough that you can just set it and forget it but it's still a legit accomplishment.
Nope. FSD is the nightmare inducing beta software that does a pretty good job of actually driving for you. This includes stopping at stop signs, making turns, changing lanes. It also sometimes does very dangerous and stupid things, like stopping as it makes a left hand turn, then deciding to start driving against the flow of traffic as a group of cars heads your way. AKA, nightmare inducing.
Not sure if it's the latest, and nowadays I rarely use it, and when I do it's just to show off to curious friends, but I live in an east coast metro and I've never been able to use FSD for more than 20 minutes without it making a dangerous mistake - 90% of the time it's been a mistake making a left turn, turning into the wrong lane or oncoming traffic after making the left, not correctly respecting the traffic lines or the left turn lights and other very scary situations.
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