Because the premise of the question was Silicon Valley, so they need a category that separates Silicon Valley away from as much as possible without making the list too long. So split every state out and then have every country after that as those are also "outside silicon valley". If it was just the US as a single option it would not actually fit the premise of the question.
This question feels primarily aimed at the US population, IMO.
Say what you say is true, where would you recommend? We can then discuss specifics of those countries. (On a less serious note, you don't have the Silicon Valley there, wherever there is.)
Unfortunately I can't see that index because of paywall.
Unfortunately my personal experience here is while I do see innovation here, when it comes to making the money all the companies run to America where the capital is or at best Germany where manufacturing is.
This one seems a bit random, but there's been pretty good reasons for Australia to be relevant in the global tech news in the last few years. Our government is burning down as many freedoms as they can get away with in the tech space, and setting a dangerous precedent for other western countries to follow. It can't hurt to have everyone reminded of that every now and then.
Also, I'd guess Melbourne and Sydney are probably trending upwards in both startups and VC available, which would result in more visitors here from these parts.
"Australia does not have a strong tech industry..."
I'm sorry - what?
Having moved to Australia from the UK I am continually amazed at the tech industry here, sure in comparison to the US ours is small but that is because there is a vast difference between our populations. America only sees size as a measure of strength
I'm not sure if I want to see any particular country progress as much as I want to see tech and the world at large progress. I also agree with the fact that when a lot of people skilled in one particular domain gather at one place, amazing things happen!! But would a small area 100% full of programmers be better or worse than something like SV? At what point does the innovative progress being produced by a city start to plateau? 25% full of high earning programmers, 50% full of high earning programmers, 75% full of high earning programmers?
The point that I'm trying to make is that, without a lot of empirical evidence, I think it would be a much better idea to try and create more such centers across the world. Thus, for those focusing strictly on tech progress (as opposed to American progress) it might be a better idea to let the US immigration laws be the way they are, while encouraging VCs to travel a bit more (even to other American cities, for starters) and helping the amazing culture travel to other cities. I can't understand why we focus on one particular country instead of combined innovation of the world!
The future doesn't lie in Silicon Valley being 100% full of programmers from across the world. It is just not big enough!! The future lies in a 1000 silicon valleys having a certain threshold of programmers. Just a thought.
the US is where a lot of the interesting innovation happens, latest product launches and technologies are here. I think that has a lot to do with why people want to be here
Which ones do you mean? From my coarse understanding, seems like most places that didn't industrialise got colonised by ones that did. Maybe that's not the case with the development of the internet, but still it's the case that the main center of innovation during the early phases (Silicon Valley) is still way ahead of everywhere else (example: OpenAI is based in SF)
I know that several countries have tried to replicate the Silicon Valley model to various degrees of success. I think by far Silicon Valley is at the top of the list with the others lagging far behind but I can't think of where in the world there would be good startup hubs.
Ex-Aussie here. I wish that Australia would adopt a more de-centralise strategy on tech hubs. I live in Germany now and have seen multinational companies setup their European HQ is small cities or towns. This is equivalent to having Atlassian setting up their HQ in Bathurst.
Location was important some years ago, but I think it's less and less relevant now. I think you can create amazing technology anywhere (in Latin America, in Europe, in Asia etc.)
Skype is a great example of this: they created a billion dollar company in Europe; and most of the development was done in Estonia (a country of about 1.3 million people, much less than most bigger cities).
Asia, especially Taiwan and South Korea, have some amazing examples as well (like HTC, Samsung, Asus etc.)
I was wondering this too. It's a shame to lose talent.
"“Australia has nothing like San Francisco, and Silicon Valley. The tech culture there is insane. The demand for skilled workers is incredible. The creativity and innovation is incredible. It's infectious,” he says."
What about the German, Chinese, Indian economies? Besides, do you know how hard it is to hire programmers in the states? Why not take advantage of programming talent in other countries by opening up R&D centers outside of the USA. Google also does this to a huge benefit.
Is Hackernews USA only? Some of these posts are confusing, like everyone is posting from and about the states.
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