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I'm sure they won't be able to deanonymize the data at the government's behest.


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I don't think that could happen. Government wants in on this data too.

I don't see how you can be certain that they don't store the data if government can easily force them to and make them shut up about it.

If they never collect the data, or store it in a way that they don’t have the private keys, they can’t give it to the government.

That doesn't protect against them threatening to make all the data public.

>Are they going to refuse to hand over data if requested by authorities?

At least they'll know the authorities are requesting the data...


All the more reason to not give that data to the government, right, if they don't already have it?

I think the people have not yet realized the full potential danger of the US gov abusing our data.

You don't seriously think that the government wouldn't have access to this data stream?

That data is too private.

So they don't share data with the government? Tell us more.

That's actually a much more reasonable answer than the one I had imagined. The unfortunate part is that I don't trust anyone not to misuse the data, especially not government employees.

Agreed. I worded that poorly. That is why I am saying the intelligence agencies won't have it. They would use policy to get the data, which ultimately translates into a court order. Failure to comply with the order would alert investigators to a bigger problem.

Problem is private companies do and will have access to this data and will one day do the worst imaginable thing we don’t want them doing.

There is really no way forward with this. Even is legally limited to law enforcement, the data will get hacked, leaked, abused. It’s just a matter of time.


Releasing the data would almost certainly put some people's lives in danger.

If they didn't anonymize the data, or tried but failed to, then we can hold them to account for that.

But the government didn't create this door or open this door. Whether or not they access this data, it's there to be accessed. Might as well use it for public good, and create a framework for using it safely.


Better yet is for the government to not even know the data existed, non? (Of course, you'd better make damn sure that they had no way of knowing before.)

> The government simply can't process all the data they collect.

This is only a matter of time.


They can force Facebook etc. to hand over the data anyway, so it does not seem like much would change in terms of the threat posed by governments.

They would probably need warrants to get access to the other data within the gov.
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