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> So I got my antibody test last week at my primary care physician. Negative. Was just a bad flu, I guess.

As someone who really hopes there will be a long-lasting immunity, I really, really hope you had a bad flu.



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> I had it early February (!)

> or the antibody tests are garbage (or both), since they reported negative

So you didn't have it?


>Took a serology test and found out that I had not had it.

How soon after you were ill? Aren't the antibodies nigh undetectable XX weeks after you recover?


> How many flus have you had? Still not immune to them?

Zero with symptoms. Unknown amount without. I've never been tested. For all I know I'm immune to all flus.


> By the time I am able to get tested it seems likely that I won't be shedding the virus any longer, and will test negative.

Shouldn't the test detect antibodies that your immune system has developed?


> ...sick in November....

An acquaintance of mine was actually sick in November with COVID-like symptoms. They had a dry cough that was so nasty, doctors tested them for whooping cough (pertussis) and it was negative. And, it actually was not too long after their office got a visit from some overseas partners from China. IIRC, they even said one of the Chinese visitors had a bit of a cough at the time. I think this is pretty strong circumstantial evidence that they may have had the virus. At the very least, it's enough evidence that this person should definitely get an antibody test as soon as practical.

Edit: I initially forgot to include that the pertussis test was negative, although that was certainly implied.


>I currently have coronavirus...Waiting on test results.

So how do you know for certain? Could be a bunch of other (infectious and non-infectious) health issues too.


> and it was bad enough that the testing company lost their contract (whether they were fudging numbers or not is debatable, I can't find any good information on it either)

Ah yea. That happened in California and Florida for sure, probably other places too. In Florida there were two labs specially that were reporting 100% positive for weeks, I don’t care how badly they had it, that wasn’t actually possible.

You probably had it, my personal experience was I got it early and aside from two days of flu symptoms it was gone. Didn’t know until I gave blood months later and had positive antibodies.


> but we all know it was COVID

Did you test? I had a bad cold several weeks back and after 3 tests it's clear that it wasn't COVID.


> Natural immunity doesn’t only last 6 months. Where did you get that?

> I’m coming out of my second COVID infection now.

I know I'm using anecdote here. Coincidently it is the same one.


> I came down with the flu (I had the vaccine), I took 4 pills over 2 days and it was turned into a slight cold.

What makes you think you had a flu in the first place and not just a cold?


> I guess I will never know..

Isn't there a covid immunity test coming soon. I am in the same boat.


> a person who back in January acquired something like pneumonia and a bad fever, went to the hospital for awhile and tests were negative for flu

That’s exactly what happened to my dad in February.


> This has left me pretty disappointed with the medical community in the general.

If you're sick or have some sort of symptoms, you better hope it's something common. Everything else is basically guesswork and then you try some different medicines or run some different tests and hope something sticks.


> I probably caught the virus early on, and it wasn't particularly bad for me (even compared to typical flu).

Do you have reason to believe that, or were you sick in January/February and just kind of assume that was it, even though we were at the height of regular cold and flu season?


> I sent a quick reply two minutes later:

> For now, I think the risk from the ordinary flu is much much greater! But worth watching to see if it becomes a real pandemic.

Nope. Lost all credibility right there. Do not pass GO, do not collect 2 minutes of attention. Sorry.

Oh, you've learned something from the error and you've updated your priors? Great, good for you. You're still unreliable.


> but simply having a positive test result isn’t the sign of long term immunity people assume

You were overly dismissive in your first mention of this. Do you have data behind the tests being false positive? Multiple positive tests + symptoms are surely sufficient


>Yet none of us tested positive for COVID.

It sounds mostly like you all got a nasty flu.


> I had very high antibodies and now have none.

No you don't.


> That it wasn't predictable or obvious flu cases would go to near zero.

How could it not be predictable? I get the cold/flu when I or someone in the family is exposed to someone sick and it gets passed on.

If we're all staying in the house and not going anywhere for a year, by what mechanism could we possibly get sick? Seemed predictable to me.

In any case, it's been so awesome to not be sick in over a year. With elementary school kid, it used to be I was sick every few weeks all year long. Not looking forward to going back to that kind of normal.

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