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Corporations might not be able to legally detain or use traditional force against people, but they can coerce and threaten people's livelihoods. Exile is an effective means of getting compliance.


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Hard to imprison a corporation, though.

Maybe, but if so, the versions are very different. Corporations cannot imprison you or tax you with the threat of imprisonment If you don’t comply.

You can’t imprison a corporation.

Corporations cannot act, as they do not have hands. Only individuals can break the law.


How hard would it be to write laws that punish companies in ways that will shape their behavior, like we do with people? All you have to do is take away their ability to business in your jurisdiction. That's corporate jail.

IMHO, If corporations are people, then corporations can go to jail.

What you present is a naive fantasy. There do not exist any corporations that do not engage in coercion. Coercion is human nature. Corporations are run by humans. In the real world things are messy. Politics and capitalism go hand in hand.

Regulations on corporations are ultimately backed up by threats of violence too.

corporate acting above the law will quickly find themselves dissolved and ousted from the market. this is not about what people feels it's good or bad, it's about what's legal and what's not in a country.

Corporations are shells for human people (!!) to commit criminal acts, but shelter these human people from the legal consequences of these acts.

If an individual continues to defy the law they get sent to jail. Why should corporations get away without similar escalating consequences?

Not quite. Corporations don't have the power to imprison (or in the US, execute) you.

Could it be possible to pierce the corporate veil in these cases and go after the people actually running them? Seems like the correct response, if these people are using corporations as throw-away legal weapons.

A corporation is a legal simulacrum of a person. Personally I think the best you can hope for is a simulacrum of morality. I really do view them as automata, without an "internal personhood," and I think that influencing their behavior with external influences is a desirable and achievable goal.

Government sanctions are applied by a democratically-elected government, which has a variety of checks and balances in it. I agree that social pressure can go off the rails. In this particular case my gut is that social pressure is encouraging them to go along with the sanctions quickly and enthusiastically.


I think people who have that view feel that corporations can't arrest you, can't seize your assets, can't restrict your travel, etc etc.

No, Corporations absolutely do do violance to their employees. Contrariwise, dictators seldom use violence outside their borders unless they are powerful enough.

In both cases, borders matter.


Jesus christ, can you suck the corporate teet any harder here?

God forbid a corporate entity can't just run amok in a country and do whatever it wants.


Corporations are notional entities, granted rights by a government. The government owes them little in the way of human rights, so how is it so difficult for a government to impose sanctions on a misbehaving corporation?

The US is in poor company as a country that has a death penalty for humans, where is the list of corporate offences that justify a dissolution of this notional entity? Only Bankruptcy?


More accurately, corporations are a special class of people that can never be jailed or executed (at least in all but the rarest cases) for their misdeeds, merely fined. That's the real problem, they want the rights of people without the punishments of people.

Corporations cannot act. If there is criminal activity, prosecute the human beings that committed crimes.
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