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I don't think the IRC server admins would be very happy if I started b64 encode live audio and video streams over their irc daemons ;)

STUN/TURN is not a requirement, but most users will have issues if you don't add those services to the mix.



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Most IRC networks have a MemoServ, so that's not an issue.

If you don't need video then I'd setup a private IRC server.

That's being worked on and there are already irc daemons that support it (but it's all a bit bolted on until the standard for that is ratified).

However it is also a feature that has to be enabled by the server operator and here you may run into different opinions if this should be a thing or not.


IRC if you don't require audio and video.

IRC can be over SSL. A lot of servers have support for this.

I don't think that's really feasible with IRC unless you invent your own extension to the standard and then convince every other IRC client to adopt it.

Why not use run an open-source IRC server then?

The beauty of irc is exactly that it is cumbersome. You don’t need a bouncer, just use /away in irssi running in tmux.

Thanks, I should probably look into that... I already have a pandora and slack window open all the time, and to add gitter.im to the mix, it's rarely open... I kind of wish I could just do it all from IRC.

I'm starting to think that creating a newer, extensible IRC client might be an opportunity.


I was considering adding IRC but I thought that almost no one uses it these days (sadly!)

Ideally yes, I'd like to implement it. It's a stable protocol that's not going to change, so there's not much cost in maintaining it.

What are you using IRC for?


If you implement services on an IRC server you can do the same.

A good IRC server, not client library - I want something where I can basically register channels and react to events in those channels. There's things like Twisted but it's very low level.

I've got a few applications I'd like to use it for, things like voip.ms's SMS. There are some extremely good IRC client and bot libraries, but nothing quite like I'd want on the server side.

I've been considering implementing it myself, but I keep bouncing back and forth about learning Rust first or just doing it in Python and calling it a day... Then I get big lofty ideas about a common IRC server being run by a daemon where other processes would connect to it via some IPC and have a nice client library where they could register channels and have control over just those channels.


That's just wrapping IRC in an actually usable protocol. At that point you aren't using IRC. Might as well use something like Matrix and be able to take advantage of a better protocol.

I run an IRC server with UnrealIRCd. Works well.

I really want the IRC protocol to decouple its sessions from the TCP connection and move to using HTTP as a transport, even if the only api verb is "send" and the only response is "receive output buffer".

I used to really love IRC, and think it could undergo a resurgence given the right upgrades.


I didn't say you should; rather, my point is that the problems with IRC mostly happen at the client level rather than the protocol level. Of course, it is also hard to ensure that a dominant client vendor does not start trying to add backwards-incompatible changes to the protocol. This has already happened once, and it's why the character U+0001 is now responsible for /me.

I think ideally such a client could be implemented as a plugin to an extensible terminal emulator, which might help to keep the project small and prevent Jabberification.


Encryption is kind of moot. Every IRC server has been behind SSL/TLS for a very long time and it doesn't prevent usage nor archives.

I’ve never tried IRC. I’ll look into it.

Don't worry, at the speed at which IRCv3 is being implemented we won't see the effects on real-world servers for another 20 years anyway :P

I know I exaggerate but I'm sure that traditional IRC clients will be supported for a long time to come as a fallback.

Personally I'd like some mod cons, like the server keeping state and not needing a bouncer. Server side scrollback would be another one.

However I'm not sure if these are in the standard. Not a fan of the typing indicator either.

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