incel generally isn't used literally to refer to all people who want to have sex but can't, but a male subset of said group who tend to hold really strong beliefs along the lines of "women won't sleep with me because they're bad", "women only like the bad dudes not nice guys like me", etc.
It's not, and you're conflating the term incel with people whom lack a sexual partner. Incel is a label that people apply to themselves that carries a whole lot of baggage, anger and a mixture of racism/sexism.
People that lack a partner are not incels, but incels lack a partner. Please spend a few minutes looking up what an incel actually is and what it means.
Incel is nowadays an ideology, not the act of being involuntarily celibate. If you think that sucks, go take it up with the incel forums where they discuss how it's totally women's fault that they can't get laid.
Inceldom is not about the struggle or loneliness, but about directing that into hate for women as a category.
> Incel (/'?ns?l/ IN-sel; a portmanteau of "involuntary celibate"[1]) is a term closely associated with an online subculture of people (mostly white,[2] male, and heterosexual[3]) who define themselves as unable to get a romantic or sexual partner despite desiring one. [...]
People who havent found a relationship are just people. People that base their identity on being an incel, in which celibacy is a status that is inflicted on them, tend to hold a cluster of beliefs that express as anger towards women as a class (for withholding sex from them) and an unwillingness to engage in honest self reflection and growth.
It is common to see some one with that mindset to see outcomes as inevitable or as a function of things wholly out of their control such as looks or a perceived social dynamic involving 'chads' and 'staceys' that they are ineluctably locked out of.
He's not an incel, but he specifically targets incels and the incel movement. Men who don't have any problems finding women they want to date aren't a suitable target for this kind of rhetoric.
Inceldom is an extremist manifestion of a growing epidemic of loneliness. Frankly, they have nothing to do with this actual discussion, and stifle discussions around male loneliness.
>is that they’re fucking creepy.
That's the point. They're different. What does creepy mean? Difficulty with social norms? Unusual interests? Physical unnatractiveness? You think these are choices? Incels are just especially self aware and bitter "geeks" and "nerds" of yore, back before those terms were coopted by the mainstream.
I think these men are bitter because they exist with the same needs for romance that you and I do, but have no realistic way of actualizing these desires. Their pain is involuntary and real. Look past the vileness of their rhetoric and understand that they are suffering.
That's just factually wrong. Even a quick read of Wikipedia would tell you that.
> An incel (/'?ns?l/ IN-sel, an abbreviation of "involuntary celibate"[1]) is a member of an online subculture of people who define themselves as unable to get a romantic or sexual partner despite desiring one.[2][3][4] Discussions in incel forums are often characterized by resentment and hatred, misogyny, misanthropy, self-pity and self-loathing, racism, a sense of entitlement to sex, and the endorsement of violence against women and sexually active people.
"Incels" are not just random people who happen to be involuntarily celibate. It's literally a self-defined hate group. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel People in the Dead Bedrooms aren't having sex but by and large they're not "incels".
Yeah I don't understand why incels are seen as evil. Young men that have limited success with women don't always hate women they long for a deep meaningful relationship like everyone else. Most will never turn violent. I get that it's bad for society to have large numbers of incels but it weird how unsuccessful men are now assumed to be woman haters.
Far from all Incels are antisocial. An incel is just a (typically young and male) nonbreeding human of breeding age. Most species have them. Human societies in the past got around the problem a little by discouraging polygamy and shifting enough risk of death onto men only that men were a minority and likely to breed by default if they made it into adulthood. Modern society doesn't like fifteen year olds dying in farming accidents or warfare, so there are a lot of men involuntarily celibate instead. But that category covers a huge range of situations and behaviors. It's just become associated with the antisocial subset because it's an effective insult - by definition, no one wants to be incel.
Incel exists both as a descriptive term and the name of a kind of subculture. So, I’d recommend not using it to simply describe someone who just hasn’t consummated a relationship.
Incel ‘culture’ usually encapsulates the online subculture that talks about evolutionary attractiveness, how they are beyond fixing and, at its worst, why women should be morally/legally obligated to couple with them as a service. It has its own body of jargon, archetypes and memes, and they generally self-identify with the term.
lol the awesome thing about incels is they make it immediately obvious to everyone as to why they've been unsuccessful at finding a partner because of their revolting personalities
Dating any of these would be profoundly bad idea. It is better for a woman to be alone then to be with someone who has opinions of incel.
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