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I like how "here's one" implies that there's a ton of them, when it's just the same utrecht antifa link that gets trotted out constantly.

As far as Antifa goes, Utrecht is not exactly a hot zone. As a city it's more 'liberal' than 'left', and it's pretty small too.



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there actually are a couple of antifa groups on there

In your second link it does appear associated with antifa -- or am I missing something?

Where are all the "antifa" labels coming from? I've not seen any actual evidence that there is any antifa involvement at all.

There's more than one activist group in the USA guys.


Yeah I don't see much of Antifa capital A but more people rallying around the idea of anti-fascism. Those that oppose this seem to have not read about the paradox of tolerance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

Where is antifa when you need them :)

> Antifa is very organized

Maybe in some places, there may be some groups that seem so. But given the evidence I've seen near me, 'organized' would be too strong a word. They're more 'middle-class white kids looking to get their faces punched', at least around here.


Antifa is a very minor left wing subculture centered around protests.

Where does antifa.com take you too?

Right wing groups posing as antifa. Happens in Europe too.

Who / where is antifa? Is it an actual organization or just a blanket statement to turn a group of people into boogeymen with a vaguely ominous sounding name?

>but there's an actual anti-fascist movement happening as well.

Movement as in organized movement, or just more people identifying as antifa?


> But unlike in rural Saxony, they are countered by a strong, active Antifa community, which seldom hesitates using violence to stop far-right activities.

Yeah all those white supremacists in Portland. Definitely not Antifa: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H4Z6Jvy1Rf0

Yep, I found the local leftist milita (they have antifa ideology but don't name the group antifa) on the list.

Just a clarification, antifa is just anti-fascist, and aren't organized at a national or regional level.

From what I gather Antifa in the US is extremely diverse in tactics, priorities (beyond the very broad “combat fascism/racism”), and, well, pretty much everything else. Which isn't surprising since it's small autonomous groups in at least two separate looser national organizations (“loose affiliation groups” may be more accurate than “organizations”).

Obviously, the more extreme elements get the most press coverage.


Mostly folks in Oregon and Chicago and elsewhere online. I'm not going to give you their names on the Internet when I'm not willing to give you my own name. Many weren't violent themselves but were condoning or praising those who were. They liken "anti-fascist" violence to allied forces at D-Day.

I'm sure you can argue if you like that these aren't a majority of antifa. Fine, I don't care, and my point doesn't hinge on that detail. Do you have anything substantial to add, or are you just here to nitpick minutia?


Worth noting that as far as I can tell, only the first one is from a group calling itself antifascist, and the triangle is a different orientation.

It would be fair to say that there are anti-fascist groups - many of them. It's just utterly non-factual to claim that "antifa" is an organized group, let alone some sort of terrorist organization. At best it's lots of small organizations with some common goals and iconography, and many of them have differing opinions and practices
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