As I said in other another comment, I'm a power user. And by power user I mean probably 10x the normal standard of what a 10x power user means. Tooling is everything to me; which is why I prefer this over anything else. I'm very biased.
Over the years there is something I've realized about the mainstream user. They do not want the best. They want convenient and 'good enough' and compliant.
All of Microsoft tools work fine, sync really well with each other and integrate natively with existing workflows.
It's easy to see why they wouldn't reintroduce power user tools once removed. It's sucky, but all mass-market tech is like this, constantly adapting to fit some lowest common denominator. Power users just aren't that.
Then I will have to learn then. I feel most productive and comfortable working on a hobby project if I don't need to spend all of my time dotting the i's and crossing the t's with cli and configuration files. I just want to build. I don't see the value investing my time learning the ins and outs of tooling that I will use maybe a few times when it makes minimal impact, as it comes with an opportunity cost for me elsewhere. That's just me though, I have no gripes with people who love to tinker with their set ups. It just isn't my thing.
Honestly I’d rather have good defaults than lots of options. If one tool meets requirements out of the box, then it’s preferable to a tool that requires a lot of tooling.
Well, there's a tool for every task and yours in this case might be too overblown for the simple task that the user is trying to solve. No need to compare it to the use at bigger companies and organizations. No need to either get arrogant or stroppy. Just because a user doesn't use your tool, she is not a hater, neither.
Sound a bit like "But mine is better/bigger/shinier than yours!" to me. Keep cool.
Should the toolmakers priority not be to make a tool its users will use?
This sort of dictating opinions via tech seems common in the browser world, and it honestly makes me thankful we primarily target pdfs and not the web.
I would be happy to let go of an employee who bank their employment on the preference of toolings.
Hear me out:
Toolings are, like the name suggests, a means to an end. If a web IDE is fast, works reasonably, and can continue improve itself. And the learning curve is friendly to engineers with different background and experience. Everyone should be comfortable to be nudged to use it. And if the tool additionally is a critical product of the organization, everyone should be comfortable to be mandated to use it, because it's now a very valuable source of dogfooding.
I think you're feeding a troll here. Anyone with time enough in engineering or programming can recognize and respect these sorts of tradeoffs without trash talking least favorite tool.
I can't really see where they're coming from. The existence of an easy tool doesn't eliminate the more powerful tools, and even advanced users sometimes want easy tools.
I'm a computer power user by any reasonable definition. I program for a living, I customize a lot of stuff, and I get pretty upset whenever I try to run an unsigned binary and my Mac decides this is too unsafe and makes me jump through hoops to make it happen.
But I also use my iPad a lot. If I'm reading on the couch or watching a video, it gets the job done much better.
It's fine to say that it's not for you, but it's ridiculous to say that simpler tools must only be for people who are incapable of using advanced tools.
I would agree. User friendliness isn't a bad goal for any piece of software, but there is a certain level of knowledge we can expect from a professional. Knowledge of their chosen tooling is one of them I feel.
Yup (among others). The fact there is such a robust market for additional tooling I think proves that there is a gap in the out of the box tooling for most users.
You misunderstand - I don't mind what combination of tools people use to get work done, as long as they're happy with it. But on a site that tries to describe interesting setups, it eventually stops being so interesting.
As a tech-affine user I aporeciate simpler tools. I love configurability but if I have to fight with every tool it's really hard to stick with Linux...
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