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Well, you still need to prevent it from melting. Coefficients of heat transfer are not infinite.


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There could be a heat-conducting layer too (but in practice it's probably not that easy).

Even if it's very conductive, it still has to dump all that heat somewhere, so it will get very hot or just melt/burn eventually.

This doesn't solve heat dissipation.

Right, but even there you still have the square-cubed law working for you - the larger volume you deal with, the less surface area you lose heat through.

Yeah you need to work very hard to lose heat without losing mass in space. Basically you can only radiate it away, which is slow; there are ways of concentrating heat in one spot so it is radiated more efficiently, but that’s where you get to the melting part.

Somehow?

I just assumed applying heat to something is very different than letting it stay the same temp by keeping it insulated.


Does that not simply melt at high temps?

Also heat, they talk about 1kW energy. Some heat has to go away, or the whole thing would glow and melt soon.

Redistributing heat across an object does not make the object as a whole any cooler.

Oh, I meant to get solids conducting heat ;p

> first making sure it cools off in space

Heat dissipation is actually a gigantic problem in space: you can only radiate heat away (and try to reflectively shield against the sun) since you're in hard vacuum which is a fantastic insulator.


The bound exists, but it's so many orders of magnitude out that for all practical purposes we don't need to worry about it.

Of course, however, heat dissipation presents similar challenges.


This doesn't change the fact that, for any degree of heat conductivity achieved smaller packages will be hard to keep cold than large ones.

> Since thermal energy is only lost at boundaries, the larger the amount you have, the smaller the net surface area per unit of volume.

You do need to do the initial melting work though. It took two months for Crescent Dunes to melt its 32 tons of salt.


Yes, you're right. It slows the rate of heat transfer.

What material would this have to be made of to not melt?

Edit: I'm not that familiar with radiation and its parameters/properties. My assumption was that it would accumulate heat. I'll go look up if radiation is a function of heat, then I suppose it could become stable at some temperature. It's surprising to me that you can block out some of the sun from a good area on the earth and not have melting bits.


True. But if the rate of heat loss is low enough, then it doesn't much matter.

What the commenter is pointing out is that it may not matter how you cool the reactor. It could be in interstellar space and it might not matter because the material the reactor itself is made of may not be able to transmit the heat away from the reactor. And no such material may exist.

Thank you. I was wondering just this.

Heat resistant material will eventually reach equilibrium where the back side is almost as hot as the front side unless it's cooled somehow.

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