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Why are you trying to be so blind to race concerns?



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Why does that matter? Why do we have to inject race into everything?

I don't see anything here that contradicts the idea that people are systematically discriminated against because of their race. That's the problem people are worried about.

Let's leave race out of this.

Uh? I did not at all suggest it was a race issue. Please peruse my comment

Same reason we should have had a problem with it then.

If racism is wrong, then it shouldn't matter which race.


Why does everything have to be a race issue?

Race shouldn't matter, but that doesn't mean it doesn't matter. You can't fix racism by pretending it doesn't exist.

Yeah, sure.

The entire world revolves around the American Race Problem. As it always does from inside your bubble.


Have we tried not bringing up race for unrelated reasons like articles about WeWork though? That might help a bit.

Nobody cares. Derailing to talk about so-called racial differences only takes away attention from things we can actually change.

Many people would agree with you that race doesn't say that much about a person. However, it's quite naive to argue that racial issues are not a part of every day life. We live in a world built on racial divides and conflicts. It's obviously venerable to strive towards a non-racist society, but to do so one needs to understand the issues at hand.

The same reasoning applies to the parent comment which is why I did not make any conclusions.

I am saying racial bias should be viewed with the lens of the larger system or world in which we all operate.


Wait are you saying that race does matter in America?

We don't live in a world where your race doesn't matter, unfortunately.

Where did I say that race doesn't matter?

The reason I mentioned race is because so many people around here want to ignore it. To ignore it is to ignore the reality that most Americans do not relate with minority groups. Bad news in a minority group is like bad news from the other side of the planet.

If your solution to a problem requires unity, you probably need to find another solution. America is not united.


The point that you (appear) to have made, and I am reacting to, is that ignoring the problem is the best way to address it, and I think that is demonstrably ineffective.

I think you are misunderstanding the point treehau5 wanted to make. I think he wants to say the same thing as I [1], we should take action to boost disadvantaged groups in order to close existing gaps as quickly as possible but that should be done in away that avoids focusing on the distinction one wants to go away. It is not about ignoring an existing issue, it is about not additionally emphasizing it.

What good is it, if you want to get rid of racial bias, to point out the race in a context where it does not matter at all? Maybe you could argue that there are people believing that black people made no significant contributions to our world and you are trying to correct that but that does not seem a very strong argument to me.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13707121


Why are all of you going on about race?

Thank you for the thoughtful reply to a snarky comment. That’s admirable. And I agree that we should not dismiss problems just because of skin color. You win the internet today.
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