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I think this rather shows the continued weakness of India.

On one hand, China and nationalism are used as a tool by the Indian government (not least while the Covid-19 situation goes pear-shaped), on the other hand they are at least as dependent on US companies, if not more.

I think India should rather reflect on China's industrial strategy, including investments in infrastructure and fostering the development of national giants when India is lacking on both fronts.



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Politicians on both sides are using nationalism as a diversion from the pandemic and the economy. This is a dangerous game.

On tech India should perhaps take a page from China's book. China is working hard to develop domestic tech giants. Where are India's?


India is trying to be china or to some extent US but without having the development of either of those countries.

Don't put the blanket statement out there. In the case of China, they can be very nationalistic, but you only need to look on their weibo network to see how dissatisfied they are with the state of affairs inside China, whether on infrastructure safety, government corruption, wealth disparity, etc. edit: I mean to say here that nationalism does not necessitate blindness or irrationality.

That being said, India is taking some especially big kicks to the groin right now. What with the starving people due to inability to distribute an abundance of food, the massive power outages that have gained global attention, and disappointing economic performance compared to the other BRIC countries, maybe your Indian friends are more defensive right now precisely because they're hurting so much?


India sure seems to be borrowing a page from China with this.

Another reason is that, with respect to the rise of China, the United States is committing to investing in a rising India to challenge China economically, politically, and militarily.

Somehow the article fails to mention the burgeoning defense relationship between India and the United States, and the US imperatives to build out regional challengers and opposition to a China that is growing in power.


I feel this isn't going to work well the second time. Automation right around the corner and India isn't willing to do the things china was allowed to do.

India is afraid of China and actively trying to trade less with them. China has been aggressive near India's borders in the recent past.

Hope India is not the second China, where they are invested and destroyed when being strong because of threatening America's position.

A lot of people have talked about the weakness in India, but have forgotten the strengths.

Outside China, India is one of the largest single market

The long term growth rate is expected to be good

There is a countrywide GST (similar to VAT)

Uber, Amazon, Google are relatively free to be in the market, this is more liberal than in many EU countries

Add to that the younger population, surplus labour, tightening global immigration

More over India is a new unwritten partner with US, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea - there is plenty of give and take. India has concluded multi billion dollar defence deals with the US.

India has made a huge push in infrastructure investments, and building several industrial corridors

India has a strategic location in the ocean

India is the only big power in the region that can kick the CCP's ass if it has to, and the Chinese have been testing it out several times

Since the coronavirus, the state of UP (200 million population) has relaxed all labour laws that was preventing employment generation and investment, has aggregated government land for new industrial setup, twice the size of Luxembourg.


I don’t understand how the US doesn’t have India deeply in its sphere of influence. With both needing to counter China, and with the US multinationals fueling the Indian IT sector, the US should have plenty of leverage that they’re not taking advantage of

India doesn't have the infrastructure to beat china.

It's wishful thinking to believe India can compete with China on the world stage. China can pivot on a dime, whereas you can flatter an Indian by describing their country as "organized chaos". Comparing the responses to COVID-19 should be indicative.

As somewhat of an metric, I'll let you look up the smallest semiconductor node India can produce natively.


India China have military asymmetry, in favor of later.

In such scenario, it is not difficult to imagine, that India use whatever strengths it has, to compensate for this asymmetry.

India is a big digital market. Consumerism is being weaponized. One can debate if this indeed is the driver or not. Yet, a statement has been made.

Boycott of Chinese physical goods is not as straightforward as digital ones. Low hanging fruit, to make a statement.


India is taking superficial measures for the show and to save face because they are currently outdone on all fronts by China.

China is playing the long game and will continue to do so, notably by continuing to develop Belt and Road.


Talking heads points. China isn’t the most powerful economy because of its headcount compared to India. But India is finally doing what it needs to build the necessary infrastructure. Unfortunately for you all the saber rattling towards India, Russia and China means that India too has been spending a lot of effort on building domestic infrastructure, working on swift alternatives, container shipping insurance, domestic high tech production etc. Just like they forced visa and Mastercard to either run on India infrastructure or pull out, they are working hard to make their own economy sanction proof from the west.

As night follows day you’ll either have to accept India as an equal or risk loosing that market as well.


I wonder if this will be the start of an Exodus of manufacturing away from China. Corporations are constantly under scrutiny with their brand messaging and signaling with respect to various conflicts involving China, Hong Kong and the unrest within the United States. India on the other hand, is a Democratic republic, might help alleviate some issues. If India plays its cards right, they may pave the way for a manufacturing revolution for their 1+ billion people. For better or worse, only time will tell.

It's interesting though, I think India is becoming more economically competitive as prices rise in China.

> India isn't willing to do the things china was allowed to do

Care to a elaborate a bit please?


I don't see this as Nationalistic flamewar. I am calling out China's bad behavior since China, the government is the acting entity. There's also evidence that this Chinese behavior isn't limited to India. Hence, more the reason to pin it to the actor, which happens to be China, the government.

Maybe I should've clarified I was referring to Chinese government and Indian government in the previous comment.

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