Are you really interested in debating the topic, or just perpetual muddying the waters?
The question is if Chinese ownership of Indian industries will be bad, and the answer is an obvious yes.
As for your claim in this case, it wasn't just a freshly deployed Chinese trooper, but the whole platoon, who had built structures and arranged weapons in violation of prior agreement.
I believe if they are successful they will be a threat to China's economic growth and their border disputes may spill out into more explicit hostilities.
From an economic standpoint they may be able to put together cost competitive manufacturing facilities with a better quality of life for their workers. That, coupled with the increasingly forceful way in which China struggles to maintain its margins are threatening the delicate balance in China between the benefit of hard currency and the challenge of an upwardly mobile workforce. (or not which would turn out to be the problem)
As more companies are put under pressure to avoid doing business with companies like FoxConn and the ability to keep information about working conditions in China out of the press is reduced. It makes for a challenging environment for the Chinese. To have a neighbor state pick up the slack with workers who, if they are successful can move on to big houses and a more affluent lifestyle, and are thus both happier and more productive in their jobs. That is the threat economically.
If India were to provide a ready market for Afghanistan's raw mineral wealth, that too could be problematic for the Chinese.
India's ED has de facto been raiding Chinese businesses and forcing them to divest to Indian ownership after 2020.
For example, MG Motors India is now majority owned by JSW Group, Huawei India (once Huawei's largest R&D hub and their main chip design hub) was forced out of India after the Doklam standoff, and all the Chinese mobile manufacturers were harragued by the ED and sold their assets to Samsung, LG, Apple affiliates, etc.
> It's true India has a lot of issues. But the good thing about investments like these is that it creates an opportunity for everyone involved to potentially make a change for the better. This could be the start of a new series of investment in manufacturing and the potential could batter enough heads together to fix issues like electricity reliability especially if every has a vested interest in making it work out.
In theory this is all true, but you really have to look at the facts on the ground and the specific situation. Tons of folks have agreed with what you're saying, and poured in investment, and the situation remains really challenging. It's not for a lack of effort — India has a huge potential labor force, it's well-situated for shipping to emerging markets (like China, parts of Africa, or India itself). And, as was pointed out above, it has a strong democratic tradition that makes it appealing to Western investment.
But that same democratic tradition makes it a very different situation from China. It can take literal decades to organize and satisfy all the constituencies involved for projects like a power station, factory complex, or highway construction. Labor constituencies are strong and organized enough to seriously push back against projects, and are often skeptical of foreign investment and "interference". Political parties even resort to violence to stop initiatives that they disagree with.
I'm not saying that it's going to be like this forever. As a US national of Indian origin, I would be happy if the the situation was different so that I could work with manufacturing partners in India. Having some cultural and legal ties to the country would give me an advantage that I don't have when working with partners in Shenzhen or Shanghai.
But it's really just not the case right now. By all means, I'm happy that this investment is happening, but I think we need to be realistic. For a manufacturing ecosystem to develop that looks anything like China does, it's going to be more on the scale of 50 years or more, not 5-10.
I don't see this as Nationalistic flamewar. I am calling out China's bad behavior since China, the government is the acting entity. There's also evidence that this Chinese behavior isn't limited to India. Hence, more the reason to pin it to the actor, which happens to be China, the government.
Maybe I should've clarified I was referring to Chinese government and Indian government in the previous comment.
Just for background: These actions are targeted against Chinese companies, in the continued battle by Indian government to fight against recent land grab near Himalayas by Chinese Army and long term economic war e.g., New Silk Road, Trade Deficit etc.
It's funny looking at the responses bashing India's decision here. With the current geo-political climate, and China pretty much swallowing up and controlling all of India's neighbours - Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Myanmar, Nepal, I'd say this decision is long overdue.
In more recent months, China's military has become increasingly aggressive against India and in the South China Sea, and they've just recently passed a draconian 'national security' law in Hong Kong which pretty much allows them unlimited control over the territory.
With this in mind, China is starting to look like a grave threat to the peace and stability of Asia and beyond (apropos their recently influencing the elections in Kiribati and having a puppet leader installed).
India welcoming Chinese made software is like the US deploying Iranian or North Korean origin software. Tell me how that works out.
Does relying on Chinese companies in India really accomplish the goal of independence from China? If there's some kind of political conflict, isn't it likely that China can shut those down using leverage at home?
Secondary sanctions may hit the Chinese-owned Indian companies, which could make them no more resilient at all. No? It seems like doesn't matter so much who is employed there as much as who owns them.
Literally all of your comments in this thread are on Indians, India, or Hindus. You've commented multiple times on "the damaging impact this might have on India down the line", but pay no heed to the subject of this whole topic: the immediate damaging effects on Chinese citizens.
As an Indian myself, I'm completely baffled by your tangents and you choosing to actively ignore the main issue at hand. This is not an issue because it might hurt India. This is an issue because it will hurt Chinese citizens.
The problems between India and China have nothing to do with any of what you mention. It's about regional influence and, especially, border disputes actually created by the British, none of which would change if China suddenly became a democracy (in fact public opinion is quite nationalistic of both sides so beware).
In fact it's India that has played the "lemme outlaw your products" card against China recently.
On the other hand, India has very good relations with Russia. Russia supplies half of India's military equipment.
Let's not get into invading others as the US would certainly NOT look good, including or especially compared to China...
So, again, your view seems rather superficial and naive.
Fuck the Chinese, they have no rights to take over other country's territories. The region's nations have to make a united stand against this. Hopefully in 20 years, India will be much more powerful than China and can use its clout to shut their stupid claims and bring order to the region.
View from the other side... India is weak. China is strong. India should be nice to China because China is strong and can beat up India / punish it economically.
It isnt possibly India. There is circumstantial evidence that it could be due to Chinese influence. The blanket interpretation ignoring context is not compelling. GL
This seems like a comment by someone who lacks a basic knowledge of Indian/Chinese relations but has an axe to grind against America. India and China are constantly saber rattling over turf wars and other geopolitical issues, and India withdrew from the recent Chinese-led RCEP free trade agreement over concerns that China would compromise their economic sovereignty.
India could undergo governmental reform and hire, say, German experts (or Indian experts!) to help revitalize their water infrastructure. Just illustrating a scenario where things change for the better and neither China nor America is involved whatsoever.
For a short notice (such an) event India might be in trouble unless some other nation/supplier comes forward with a better cost or commitment to some sort of alliance/favour or support and solidarity.
If it happens not in a war like situation then the contract was broken by the supplier and India is fully capable of using those manufacturer's patents and manual as recipe book just like China has been doing for decades. Now, that country can't go their government or Indian government and say - "hey, look we screwed India and now it's screwing us back".
If you wanted a short an final answer - then yes, India will be in trouble.
The question is if Chinese ownership of Indian industries will be bad, and the answer is an obvious yes.
As for your claim in this case, it wasn't just a freshly deployed Chinese trooper, but the whole platoon, who had built structures and arranged weapons in violation of prior agreement.
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