I did not say that it was all that stoicism is. I am not even claiming that it is especially central to stoicism. But it is undeniably a part of stoicism, as any fair reading of those two quotes indicates. Yes one of the central beliefs of stoicism is that we should inculcate within ourselves an ability to withstand any change in our external circumstances. But it is a complex philosophical system. It is perfectly possible for stoicism to admit both that belief, and the view that I'm ascribing to it.
Stoicism. It's a practical philosophy where ability to be rational and do good work is considered the only goal worth pursuing, and incorporates mindfulness into that system to be able to pursue Virtue. Quotes from adherents include:
"If your body was turned over to just anyone, you would doubtless take exception. Why aren't you ashamed that you have made your mind vulnerable to anyone who happens to criticize you, that it automatically becomes confused and upset?"
"It is in your power whenever you choose to retire into yourself. For there is no retreat quieter or freer from trouble than a man's own soul."
Similar to Zen and Minimalism, but with the built-in goal of searching for virtue as the best way to live a life. It's the basis for modern CBT/DBT therapies as well. Good stuff.
Just curious, why aren’t you a fan of stoicism? If you don’t mind sharing some thoughts on it I’d appreciate it. I’ve been exploring it and I enjoy reading various takes on it. I’m not married to the philosophy and looking for a battle by any means.
I must be the only one in this thread who agrees with the author-- Stoicism is a very defensive philsohpy-- it teaches you how to survive harsh times, but has nothing about living a joyful and fulfilling life. I find you have to couple Stoicism with something like religion,or Eastern philosophy, to really get the most out of it
I basically make peace with the fact that hardships in life are unavoidable.
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