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I remember when Eich was outsted. It was textbook cancel culture. Do you really think his reputation has recovered?


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I'm a bit unfamiliar with Eich, what has he done?

Is there still controversy surrounding Eich? I thought (hoped?) that was over years ago.

What is Eich doing now?

Well, this whole incident involving Eich is a pretty good example.

Out of interest, how would you apply the above to Brendan Eich?

I sincerely think we just started getting philosophical and forgot we were talking about Eich.

Any mention of Eich gets downvoted to hell, it's part of the "cancelling".

Parent is 100% correct.


Given the other stories this article brings up, it seems Eisenmann has a history of this kind of thing.

I just read Atul Gawande's Better where there is a good discussion of Semmelweis, Apparently, Semmelweis was an extremely obnoxious nutjob, which is why he was ignored. When Lister started a lower profile, less obnoxious, program to do basically the same thing a few years later, he was much more successful.

Guttenberg tried to hold onto his position. He at first rejected the accusations, even though they had already been extremely well documented:

> Ich bin gerne bereit zu prüfen, ob bei über 1200 Fußnoten und 475 Seiten vereinzelt Fußnoten nicht oder nicht korrekt gesetzt sein sollten und würde dies bei einer Neuauflage berücksichtigen

> I am perfectly willing to check whether in any of the over 1200 footnotes and 475 pages individual footnotes were not - or not correctly - inserted, and to correct this in a new edition.

Guttenberg kept to this position for a week, while Angela Merkel and most of the government supported him.

In the end, though, the extensive plagiarism (93% of the pages have at least one known instance of plagiarism) in his dissertation was so well documented that it was impossible to deny, and his statements about possibly having made a few mistakes here and there also looked more and more like outright lies. Nobody plagiarizes to that extent by mistake.


Yes. However I love the fact that Euch continued to oversee it's lead and development in tc39, and a lot of credit goes to him where js is today

Yes I remember the heise reports as well and it was super speculative back then. BTW, your English translation is good. May I ask if that is just with high school German class or have you been to Germany?

Speaking of Wirth, he wrote a similar essay to the OP: https://people.inf.ethz.ch/wirth/Articles/GoodIdeas_origFig....

He is mentioned on this side https://github.com/h5bp/Effeckt.css

Those are a lot of claims to throw out there in one sentence. Can you elaborate a bit (although I'll give you SLIME over Geiser)?

Thanks for the link. I'll check it out.

I personally have mixed feelings about Avdi Grimm's approach. Some of his small tweaks are brilliant. Others feel to me like OO going totally overboard for no good reason. That's where I identify more with Gary Bernhardt's views. In that sense, DAS is perhaps much harder to replace.


Source for the reason Johannes Vetter failed? Does not look like this was covered well in the press.

The second I started reading this thread I was wondering how long it would take for a Wosch document to show up! Thanks for making my day :)

I took his OS class in undergrad and I remember distinctly being annoyed at "Fäden".


I mean, Clauswidtz is a way better reading, with less vague information, still a bit wrong concerning modern warfare (although Russian seems to use it). And his teaching were applied effectively multiple times, with success, even during ww2. A bit dryer and less applicable for young edgelords. And more than half the St-Cyr (officer school) I knew/talked to fit in this category ten years ago, I doubt it changed much.
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