Your life choices decide if you need a car or not, you can live perfectly fine in rural Europe without a car. Sure I only had 10 km to nearest busstop, 15 km to nearest store and 60 km to nearest highspeed trainstation. So not really that rural, but you do not need a car even if those distances are longer.
Most people do have a car so the pressure is high to get one, it is also cheapin rural areas of Sweden. Parking is free, always available, most of the infrastructure is slowly being erroded by car centric design. So yes soon you will be required to have a car in some rural areas to be able to travel anywhare ot get food.
As discussed many times past, including on HN, if you live in or near a major city, and in a country or area which prioritises goood public transport, you can get by admirably --even better-- without a car.
As soon as you move even a little away from the metropolis, and/or to somewhere that doesn't prioritise good public transport, access (at least) to a car becomes close to a necessity for many activities. This rule holds true in my direct experience in the UK, US, Switzerland, and Germany.
For example, in the US compare living in Denver to a small town a couple of hours' drive out in the sticks. Or in the UK, living in one of the major cities to virtually anywhere in the countryside.
This is entirely incorrect. The small village I live in, in Scotland? The really crappy and unreliable public transport? Yep. I need a car if I want to get to the Reasonably Priced Supermarkets and transport the weekly shopping back home conveniently, for example.
Or if I need to travel to Place of Work/customer sites.
And then there's the long trips around the country when I want to embark on them.
So please. Don't tell me I don't need a car. Reality, practicality, beats ideology any day.
Feel free to tell someone living in rural France, or Ireland, that they must live without an automobile.
Well, I didn't.
I lived in European towns/cities from ~10k to 350k people. Rural areas exist obviously but compared to US suburbs or even most US urban areas we're talking far far smaller % of people who need a car for most aspects of day-to-day life in Europe.
Yeah, but this works both ways: people live in rural places where they absolutely need to have a car, because they have access to cars. Without cars, less people would live there. Society adapts to the existence of the car.
Sweden. I've never needed a car and live 50km from a city. The only people that need cars are those that literally live in the middle of the forest or need them for work.
If you live in any kind of rural area bus services are likely to be pretty poor and if you aren't next to a railway station then what do you do? Cars are as important in rural areas in the UK as much as any other country.
Edit: Of course, the proportion of people in this position in the UK is probably relatively low but they do exist - I'm one!
"just as it might be in more rural parts of Europe."
Even europeans often have this urban blindspot. In some places (eg netherlands), you may be able to live conveniently without a car. For a lot of places (eg >50% of ireland), not having a car is a major lifestyle inhibitor. Transport (or lack thereof) dictates a lot of your life... from work opportunities to whether or not you can access a supermarket.
In Europe, it looks like it is becoming the norm now for young people not to own a car. I'm not sure if it is price or ideology driven.
For sure it is becoming harder and harder to own a car in the city, you need to shell a lot of money to pay the parking and meet the emission criteria
Having grown up in a small village, requiring you to have a car, I can not imagine my life without a car
"Sure I only had 10 km to nearest busstop ... but you do not need a car even if those distances are longer."
And you had those conditions, while having a family? I doubt that can work out, my wife is pregnant, for example. She cannot walk or cycle 10 km to get anywhere.
Anyway, we had the choice and we live in a village with a supermarket and trainstation. But if we had to live in a place you describe, it would not work without a car.
I live without car my entire life and I am sick of it. I've had so many times when I thought "gosh, I wish I just had a car so I don't have to beg someone or pay someone".
For the reference, I live in London. Yes, it has stores within 5-10min radius. Normally I don't mind going there every other day. However, in March 2020 everybody was going fucking crazy and, you know, the government told me to not go out unless it is necessary.
Before that, I lived in French Alps. It was splendid, I commuted by bike. However, every single weekend I was facing a choice: either I beg someone to drive me to mountains or I pray that there is a bus going where I want to go and I can calculate my hike well enough to catch one of 3-5 buses a day to come back home.
Not having a car sucks balls. I really can't see how anyone can argue the opposite. I think what you mean is "you don't need a car every single day".
Before I had a family, I also did not have a car. But in rural areas, it is really, really hard without one.
For example one train line in a village close by down in a valley is currently not active for whatever reason. But there are buses as a replacement - except that they do not go down in that valley, so people wanting to use that bus, just have to walk 2 km steep uphill. Then it happens, that the last train was late, you miss the connection - and are just stranded somewhere and they don't give a shit, even though they told you before, the other train will wait.
What else? Well, trains that just don't come and no more information avaiable, except that they officially are on time. So you stand there and wonder if it just came too early and left before the timetablr (also happened to me).
Then of course there are villages where the train passes through and they have a train station, but the train never stops there. And if you live a bit away from the trains, then you are lucky if one bus is coming on the weekend.
So good luck convincing those people, that they don't need cars. Not with that state of public transport.
I also simply cannot imagine, how you can run regular bus lines in low populated areas in an economic way.
The best compromise I know are buses on demand, meaning you call one hour before and then they will come. But this also only works with subsidies.
You assume everyone is living in dense cities of various sizes. But if you live in a rural area where distances are large and public transport is spotty, a car is almost a necessity to get from A to B in useful time.
Most people do have a car so the pressure is high to get one, it is also cheapin rural areas of Sweden. Parking is free, always available, most of the infrastructure is slowly being erroded by car centric design. So yes soon you will be required to have a car in some rural areas to be able to travel anywhare ot get food.
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