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You're absolutely right. I just think of these "unwitting scammers" as victims, because they lose money from their participation. But I admit that they could certainly be considered both scammers and victims, as the two are not mutually exclusive.


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I think this view is giving a free pass to the malicious psychological manipulation involved by the scammers, in other words, victim blaming.

Anyone can be a victim of a scam, and nobody is at fault for falling for a scam except the scammers and the lax law enforcement around it.


are they scammers?

There's gotta be a line between victim blaming and outright victim stupidity. I think these people who fell for these scams may be on the latter half of that line.

Who is being scammed?

So scamming millions of dollar is OK, as long as there are enough victims to absorb that cost?

you're talking about scammers not scammer scammers

Good point, so even worse, they are scamming people knowingly.

"I don't blame the victims"

I don't blame the victims as much as the scammers but I surely do put some blame on people too because Greed and/or desperation drives them to do things which are too good to be true. Most of us know better but still do it hoping it would pan out. There is no grift without grifters but there is no grift without gullible people as well.

If you are giving some stranger money so that you can double it in a year without really understanding why, you should be blamed. My 2 cents.


We aren't talking about that though, we are talking about whether someone who falla for a scam bears any responsibility for that, at least in this thread started by the parent comment. When you walk into a building with a big sign above it that says "warning: scams ahead" can we really say "blaming the people that walked in here is unequivocally wrong"?

Don't blame the victim because someone was running a scam.

Pardon, I misunderstood your "worth being scammed" as victim blaming, not as highlighting how grifters may filter for victims.

It was a stupid risk, they said as much. Why are you insisting on self-flagellation?

They are the victims here (assuming they are telling the truth).

I don't blame people for being taken advantage of by a conman. I might advise them not to be so trusting, but I don't go around demanding they publicly take full responsibility for being the victim of a scam.


Anyone who put money into an obvious scam isn't a victim.

The scammers the article is about

I was talking about the users giving them money, not the scammers/con artists.

you say scammed, I'd say they're making risky purchases. People should be allowed to take risks

I really do understand the plight of victims of scams.

I know of a couple.

I also see people hurt who were chased from communities, or are drawn into these kinds of things right here instead of just working on what they love.


The scammers are scamming scammers.

Isn't the same true for scammers?
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