At this point, to me the Democrats seem more racist than the Republicans. All you hear from the latter is oldschool liberal egalitarianism, whatever the sincerity; the former are obsessed about race and make everyone else obsessed by proxy with, for example, how they cast white guys as the antagonists in every piece of media.
This is pretty silly. Less than 30% of Latinos and less than 5% of African Americans are Republicans. The balance are Democrats. The Democratic party simply can't be institutionally bigoted against those groups and survive as a party; those groups are core parts of the Democratic coalition; the Democrats in a real way simply are the Latino and African American vote.
That's all I'm saying. I am not psychoanalyzing Republicans in general. Most Republicans probably aren't racist. That's not my point.
I'm really not interested in what you think Chinese Americans think, sorry.
Of course. Anti-racist activists have long been extremely critical of the lawmakers. The dems tend to be better than the republicans, but both participate in and contribute to a system that ultimately is racist at its very core.
> True enough, but your point is merely a digression. Nothing you say seems to refute the argument that characterizing the modern Democratic party as the one most motivated by racial resentment is... yeah.
They've changed their colors but not their tune. Historically the Republicans said that everyone should be treated equally under the law and the Democrats claimed equal treatment was bad. Today it's the same thing but they're targeting a different demographic, so they still oppose equality under the law but it's a different set of exceptions.
Democrats need black votes much more than Republicans need racist votes, because there are a lot more black people than racists in the swing states. Which means Democrats need the narrative that Republicans are all racists to stick, so they spend a lot of time telling everybody that and publicizing every little instance they can find.
The Democrats would be in serious trouble if black people started believing that entrepreneurship is the best way for their communities to get out of poverty and voting for politicians who made it easier for them to start a business.
But if entrepreneurship really is the best way for a community to get out of poverty...
> Come on. Republican bang the drum for the culturally scared white vote, and they've done it consistently for over half a century regardless of the fidelity with which one explains civil rights legislation.
Don't conflate race and culture. The difference is really important. Because the difference is that a black man willing to work two jobs to go to college so he can get a middle class paycheck and live in a middle class neighborhood with middle class schools, can actually do that. That wasn't the case a century ago. And it's important to notice that nobody of consequence is asking for that to go back to the way it was.
The problem is that Democrats are now trying to pin their mess on Republicans and pay lip service to solving it. Even when they've had a legislative majority (e.g. Obama's first term), they still don't actually fix the criminal justice system, or gang violence, or a dozen other things that are actively making life hard for poor communities.
And when they claim to have done something like the ACA, it ends up being a huge taxpayer subsidy to corporations that donate to their campaigns and an arduous bureaucracy to the people it's supposed to help.
Please don't assume that Democrats ever consider the best interests of "black neighborhoods". There's very little evidence that's the case. The most they can really claim is that they are often less overt in their racism than the other face of the status quo party.
Calling out Republicans specifically over identity politics seems kind of silly, given how much of the Democratic Party's politics is based on race and gender.
Painfully enough, Democrats are largely unsympathetic or deliberately unaware. Every racial equality discourse and minority suppression is about “black and latino”.
Yes. Being against anything on the Democratic Party platform is racist. You got it. If it isn't obviously racist, it's a "dog whistle." It isn't possible that anybody else could disagree with me for reasons that are fair and well reasoned because they see things from a different perspective.
Both 'Democrat party' and a definition of racism that strips it of any notion of prejudice or animus (compare that to, say, one you might find in a dictionary) are very much politically-inflected jargon.
I'm bringing up Democrats because it's important to understand how the Media shapes perspectives. Media doesn't give the two parties fair treatment, so what makes you think their denunciations of the Republicans are based in reality? Many of them are not.
Many of the critiques of King and others are propaganda and lies. Many of the supposed "white supremacists" in the Republican ranks have just been branded that in order to discredit them for political purposes. Trump is a great example. It's often repeated he is a "white supremacist" or racist against various groups, but there's not really good evidence of that and actually much evidence to the contrary.
The modern Democratic Party is outraged that the US Supreme Court told them this month that “there’s too many Asians!” isn’t a legal basis to engage in systemic racism at universities like Harvard and UNC.
Multiple Democrat politicians publicly have condemned that victory for civil rights — because their platform is rebuilding institutional racism.
I don’t know how twisted up you have to be to think the same party that founded the KKK, implemented Jim Crow, implemented racial quotas, and implemented systemic racism against Asians is somehow the one fighting for civil rights — but it’s factually untrue.
Democrats right now, today, are fighting to rebuild organized racism.
You could frame it as a class issue, but democrats have a much stronger hold over the African American voting population than the poor population. So it's better for democrats keep to framing conversations around race instead of class, to fire up their base.
Got it, so all we need to discredit any idea or proposition is to associate some violent people with it. There goes the Democratic party too between the explicit support of previous riots by some of its representatives and their racist history with the KKK and enslavers. Do you think that makes sense?
The dude kept a confederate flag on his desk, but keep going off about the Lügenpresse. The dude talked about how diversity would weaken us as a nation and lower quality of life.
I don't know why you're bringing up Democrats, it's irrelevant to me. Sure, you're trying to deflect from the white supremacists in the Republican ranks, but you're going about it in the most smooth brained way. I can critique Republicans while not being a Democrat, but your tribalism is blinding you to that possibility.
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