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But they don't qualify, that's the point. If you have an ITIN you don't qualify for this kind of tax credit.


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You don't even save on taxes, because you don't qualify for the Earned Income tax credit.

That's not how the Earned Income Tax Credit works....

The poor don't have taxable income. You can only claim the credit if you itemize which is restricted to even higher tax brackets.

No; I am not assuming that. The standard deduction does cover a lot of people; but a lot of the people that it covers end up filling out other forms as part of their returns for tax credits.

For example, the Earned Income Tax Credit is a means-tested benefit program that's delivered through the tax system. This is not a niche program - 25 million families benefit from it.

It requires filers to identify how many qualifying children they have, which in turns depends on things like the educational status (is this child in school, college, are they a full-time student) and residency (child must generally live with you, but with exceptions for overseas military service, etc).

In cases where multiple filers can claim a qualifying child (e.g. cohabiting single filers), you're required to make an election as to which return will claim the qualifying child.

The EITC also encourages reporting of informal income (because it's only available to people who earned an income) which might not be on a W-2 / 1099, e.g. baby sitting, to qualify.

None of that stuff is known to the IRS from W-2s, 1099s etc. and they are dependent on the filer to provide it every year, especially as circumstances change; and filers are strongly incentivized to provide it as the credit is refundable.


That's what the earned income tax credit does.

We are not talking about a tax credit here, but a deduction.

Tax credits don't help people who are struggling to pay day to day bills. What good is a tax credit they'll receive up to a year later? When your horizon is 2 weeks, you're going to prioritize food & accommodation before a health insurance plan.

> There's a $10k deduction for state taxes. If the state tax rate is greater than the federal rate, then they won't pay federal income tax.

That would be true if it were a credit, but it is a deduction.


Why? You don't get an exemption on income tax for many of these.

>may qualify >certain

There's a lot of exceptions. It's not a blanket "if you earn less than X you don't pay US taxes".


Achtoooly... If you qualify for EIC or child tax credits you can't necessarily withhold low enough to avoid a refund.

It isn't a deduction but a credit.

They already do. The EITC (Earned Income Tax Credit) applies primarily to filers who are head of household -- which, by definition, requires having at least 1 dependent. Childless people are filing single.

They can, just not if they have to pay taxes on an extra $40k of income per year that they aren't actually receiving.

Tax deductions are not tax credits; they only provide fractional offset of taxes.

These just allow you to claim deductions which reduces your tax liability - it's not like you get a _credit_ out of it.

Tax credits are dollar for dollar reduction in taxes owed. There's no reason to apply a marginal tax rate.

Is nobody else going to tell this guy that the earned income tax credit already exists?

If you have a child, you get a tax deduction (or credit? I forget).

It’s both actually! I get a deduction for each of my kids. Many people also get a tax credit of $1,000 for each of their children. I don’t qualify because of having too high of an income.

https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/ten-facts-about-the-child-tax-c...

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