I don't understand the current state of self driving cars.
First we have tesla which already has a self driving car. They were the first to build one and now everyone is playing catch up, or are they?
Waymo has been building something for a really long time too but I have no idea how close they are to an actual product.
Now there is this new company that gets a bunch of money to build something.
It feels to me like the self driving car market will go to the first player who can make a self driving car -- which is tesla.
Or maybe no one is close to making a really good self driving car yet, and even if they did, they would have to convince people like me that I can sleep at the wheel while surrounded by massholes.
Cruise and Waymo are the clear market leaders in Autonomous Vehicles. Tracking the progress of these companies in the past year alone where they are operating with no safety driver in dense San Francisco is incredibly impressive. The field of machine learning in general is advancing at a great pace as well. I think by the end of the decade in places with limited weather events AV will be as common as Uber. At some point people will reconsider buying a new car and just rely on a robotaxi subscription along with walking, cycling, and transit to get around. It will be survival of the fittest though, only few companies will succeed. Tesla 'Autopilot' on the other hand doesn't even use Lidar, seems to disconnect frequently and is much more dangerous. I really think they use deceptive marketing.
Interesting. What other car makers has self driving capabilities, runs on ev exceeding 250 mi on range, and has cameras around the car? Last I checked Volvos doesn’t even come close.
The car company that is going to win the most market share in the next 10 years is the one with the best self-driving system.
I don't know a lot of details about the technology, but Tesla seems to understand this, so this article seems to be about a small bump in the electronic car market in one smallish country.
I just can't see how people don't just share cars once the auto-pilot is developed enough to drive itself, right?
I can't read the article, so only going off the headline, but how does the conjecture that self driving cars are far off jive with the fact that my understanding is they are already deployed in production in Phoenix, AZ? And are being used regularly in the bay area in testing?
Obviously it's incremental. I fully expect in the next 24 months I will be able to call an autonomous car via an app on my phone in the bay area under certain known conditions, like good weather and common, low-risk routes. Or, specifically, that I'll be able to direct my model 3 to drive me to the San Jose airport (a 10 minute drive) without the need for me to actually take any manual interventions along the way. (Though I will still be asked, by Tesla, to be ready to take control.) If true, that's progress, and I expect the progress to continue until eventually this technology is widespread and covers the vast majority of routes and conditions.
The technology is pretty amazing, but does anyone else feel like we (the public) got duped?
What I wanted was for my own car to drive itself so I could relax and make better use of car time. I also wanted some new novel ways of interacting with cars to make them feel more like public transit that would be enabled by driverless technology.
What we got was ... SciFi Uber. We are not going to be allowed to own the cars, and hiring them for trips will not be any cheaper or easier than Uber. And most will be owned by big companies with motives besides transportation.
The driverless future was so exciting in 2013. Now it's just ... there.
So this video features a self-driving car developed by Yandex. Does someone have insight into why so many big tech companies seem to all be in agreement that developing self-driving cars is an area they need to be pursuing? Is it mostly everyone looking at what Google is doing and replicating that? Or is it the getting swept up by the Uber hype? Or is working on self-driving car software just such a natural extension to what these tech companies have been doing all along in their main areas of expertise anyway?
(I feel like this question must have been brought up a number of times already, since these projects have been going on for a while by now.)
They are developing the technology to make car self-driving. They are not developing the cars. They use Toyota Prius and I think some Lexus model too. I could see them partnering with Tesla to make it the first company to use the technology though.
Absolutely false.
A bit more than 5 years ago I thought quite seriously to invest on self driving cars because I thought it would be viable in the not so far future and it seemed that no one else was pushing for it.
10 years ago there were only research projects with abysmal performance compared to what today seems not too far from the market.
Any verifiable source for your claims?
There are a number of tech companies building self driving cars. This isn't the kind of challenge one would take on on their own, as you need hardware, software, automotive, and many other specialties to handle this. Just vehicle dynamics alone are important
Someone really needs to explain to me what the thought process behind this acquisition was.
Self driving car technologies have has actively developed by almost every car company for years now. Many of the beginnings of this work has already made it to market e.g. Parallel Park Assist, Auto Emergency Breaking, Lane Merge Detection, Adaptive Cruise Control. And companies like Volvo are already testing their self driving cars in real world, difficult conditions in Sweden. And because there are only a few car conglomerates they will simply share technology within each group.
I wish they had invested 500 million into buying a self-driving startup or something instead. Or just opening up a new AI branch for Toyota / Lexus. It's not like people en masse are driving around in self driving cars while asleep at the wheel yet so the race for self-driving is still a turtle race. They have the resources imho to do great things, maybe they're afraid after the software issues where cars would keep accelerating, but that shouldn't stop them from getting in on the game.
Ah well, I'm nobody anyway, just a guy hungry to see tech companies compete and see less of tech being monopolized between a few companies.
* All the big auto manufacturers are shipping self-driving cars.
Volvo is the first to ship a Level 3 system to real customers.
* Tesla is doing OK, but the big electric car brand is Chevy.
* Waymo is a Tier I supplier to Fiat/Chrysler.
* GM and Ford are using their own self-driving technology.
* Uber is still around, but is out of investor cash, and has to be profitable to pay back its loans. The service is much more expensive to use. Their self-driving thing never works out for them because they can't spend big money to buy cars, build garages, and staff up for maintenance.
* Lyft is still around, about the same as it is now.
* The mini autonomous bus people have some installations, but they're rare outside airports and campuses.
There was a startup that for $10,000 it was a third party option package that was self driving. I wonder how it is doing with all these car companies that create their own options for self-driving.
First we have tesla which already has a self driving car. They were the first to build one and now everyone is playing catch up, or are they?
Waymo has been building something for a really long time too but I have no idea how close they are to an actual product.
Now there is this new company that gets a bunch of money to build something.
It feels to me like the self driving car market will go to the first player who can make a self driving car -- which is tesla.
Or maybe no one is close to making a really good self driving car yet, and even if they did, they would have to convince people like me that I can sleep at the wheel while surrounded by massholes.
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