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More like the case of the Zoom employees are members of the Communism Party and decided to interfere to raise their profiles in the party. The alternative would be not taking action and be considered "enabling" the Tienanmen Square memorial to take place and obviously face punishment.


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"This" being "Zoom executive charged with disrupting meetings commemorating Tiananmen Square".

They will quickly lose their jobs.

It is somewhat similar (but to lesser degree of course) to China: there’s no law prohibiting talking about Tiananmen Square, but you better not do it.


Tiannamen Square is believed to greatly affected Chinese politics, mostly for the better. They do not like talking about it but they have done much to prevent something like that from happening again.

I disagree. Tiananmen Square is a source of shame for the Chinese ruling party, and many of the people there are indeed aware of it -- moreso every day with the coming of the Internet.

A column of APCs and PLA heading into Shenzhen.. super restrained. I'm sure those protestors are so lucky to the CCP to not be Tiananmen Square 2.0...

Really?


> for commemorating the victims of the Tiananmen Masacre

You realize the 89' protestors were trying to overthrow the government (thats how you establish the Democracy). No surprise that celebrating failed-revolutionaries is contentious.


My Chinese colleague was randomly walking by a protest in his city recently.

He didn’t even know there was a protest nearby until he was ‘visited’ all day by police and had to sing the praises of the ccp.


Tiananmen Square protests:

Year: 89

Date: 6/4

Both 89 and 64 are blocked by the GFW.

Censorship of recent history this blatant seems less like historical negationism and more like the statement: "Speak of this event and face severe punishment."


It's an attack I've contemplated. If you started sending a whole bunch of plain text Tiananmen Square remembrance stuff you'd very quickly have China cracking down on whatever it was.

I think part of the reason why Li Wenliang's story stirred up such emotions is that he wasn't really an activist with a righteous indignation, he was just a normal citizen looking out for the people around him. That said, his action effectively blew the whistle through the spread of information.

So that's why Russia or Myanmar shoot or arrest protesters. Tiananmen Square was also just the government's attempt to help the protester's cause?

The logical conclusion of following orders like this is for China to demand every trace of Tiananmen Square to disappear from all of the Internet.

This is madness.


... thus China's policy (e.g. in Tienanmen Square) of only using troops from other regions to put down protests.

I can understand the logic to shutting down pro-democracy protests in Tiananmen if you're a party member and your political system is at stake. This type of thing (sadly) happens all around the world.

But I don't see what was to be gained. Take in mind there are a not insignificant number of people who believe that the US planned 9/11 and Pearl Harbor as well. It just seems like in all these cases (9/11, Pearl Harbor, Coronavirus) to not be in the country's interests at all.


They tried that in 1989. Might want to look up what happened in Tiananmen Square.

Surveillance of protesters:

Student leaders were put under close surveillance by the authorities, traffic cameras were used to perform surveillance on the square and the restaurants in the nearby area and where students gathered were wiretapped.[108] This surveillance led to the identification, capture and punishment of participants of the protest.[109] After the massacre, the government did thorough interrogations at work units, institutions and schools to identify who had been at the protest.[110]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests...


The people at Tiananmen had a cause to protest, this is just a bunch of privileged assholes throwing a tantrum.

If the government suppresses the history of the event in China, how are the protesters of tomorrow supposed to know to think twice?

Not against the CCP. Tank man was allegedy executed by firing squad two weeks after the event.
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