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Do people really want that stuff out do they just think they want it?


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People want what they want. Even if what they want is shit.

I believe you are making the common mistake of confusing what people really want (the desires they act on), and what they say they want. What people say they want is usually "the thing that they want to want" - it's a bit meta. You can call that "lying" if it makes you feel better, but pretty close to everybody does it.

People rarely know what they actually want

IMHO, better way to think about it is that humans claim they want not something they really want.

People don't know what they want.

What they say they want and what they really want are sometimes two different things.

While I think you are right that there is a difference between what people say they want and what they actually want --

I would suggest that there is also a difference between what people actually want, and what people demonstrate with their behavior, what they actually do.

What people do is not neccesarily what they want either! For all sorts of reasons. Poor self-control, costs/risks (financial/social/psychological) to doing what you really want, etc.

Just becuase someone spends money on something doesn't actually mean that, in an ideal world, they want to be paying for it, or want it in their lives.


Well, part of it includes actually wanting to do this stuff. Some people don’t, and that’s fine.

Sure. Slightly restated, they may well "want" those things, but not want it badly enough to make the required changes to their life.

Only if you use some vague, hypothetical concept of want. To me wants are the things people pursue. Seeing as people act, the idea that they don't know what they want is silly.

To say that peoples wants are bad for them or they should not get what they want is a paternalistic concept that I don't care for nor find particularly actionable.


The problem being that what people say they want and what people actually want are often two entirely different things.

Why? People don't know what they want. If they know, they don't know why. Almost never.

Most people want what they have been told to be desirable. No offense to free thinkers out there, but our mind is mostly shaped by our experiences in society.

Funny thing is, most people don't know what they want, or they do but it's bad for them, or it's good for them but bad for many others.

The set of people whose wants should be satisfied is much smaller than the set of people who want.


Is what people say is what people actually going to do ?

Discussions like this get sullied because people interpret the word "want" differently. Some interpret it as an action that is supported by a conscious will and get offended when it is supposed that they want something that is, rationally speaking, not what a person should want. Things like procrastination and gluttony. In my experience these people's thinking tends to be more libertarian. My impression is that their egos have a stronger hold on them than their material needs. Others will interpret "want" as a desire borne from basal physiology, acknowledging that we (the "person") are pilots of organic bodies (the "human") that sometimes induce certain emotions and drives that we are unable to suppress. These people tend to be more holistic thinkers.

Probably this. Also, people are really bad at "knowing" what they want.

There is always a discrepancy between what people say they want and what their actions show they want.

It's true, but still the driving force is a common denominator of "what people want".
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