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Not the OP, but I'd say noisetorch already works pretty good for that use case. Especially with the recent additions of pre-selecting the last device and stuff like that, I really appreciate those minor QOL improvements.

If I compare it to how RTX voice works, it's _slightly_ more complicated to setup (currently no distribution through standard package managers/simply downloading a file and clicking it to start everything) and it doesn't autostart like RTX voice does on windows startup. But jugding from your issues [0] I understand the decision and I'll set it up manually.

It might be an idea to allow for autostart for users who don't care about the CPU impact because their CPUs are big enough or whatever.

Nevertheless, your solution is actually very close to what OP is describing: "install an app and click a button to turn on". So thanks for maintaining, I use it daily!

[0] https://github.com/lawl/NoiseTorch/issues/6



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I'm not sure how hard it would be, but I wonder if you could turn these suggestions into a script. I'm sure a lot of people would pay $10 (just throwing out a price point) for an app that allows you to quickly setup a computer for an extremely non-technical user.

Isn't there a startup that does this already? Seems way too intuitive and natural to not have happen already.

It would be nice if all your running apps volumns could be controlled from a single place though, rather than having to hunt around for menus in each app.

That could be one use, yes. There's a whole spectrum of options available for that kind of thing! You could pop Squeak SystemWindows out into separate X11 windows; you could make Squeak the X window manager; etc.

I'm currently putting Squeak as the desktop environment for a cellphone [1,2,3], and in order to get non-Squeak apps like a browser etc running in a non-terrible way, I need to be able to talk to X.

[1] https://eighty-twenty.org/tag/squeak-phone/ [2] https://syndicate-lang.org/journal/tag/squeak-phone/ [3] https://git.syndicate-lang.org/tonyg/squeak-phone


My Windows box already does that.

Agree. But it should be doable to set this up using open LLMs, right? For example, using Siri to trigger a shortcut that sends a prompt to the dedicated processing device.

Yes, but it’d need to be more transparent - as in you’d just launch a program from your default graphical program launcher, and the program itself would automatically select what resources, local and remote, would be used.

I didn't know something like that exists. I knew of win10 app sandboxes, but this is even more generic. I'll definitely use it whenever possible.

I got so used to this being relatively easy on linux (grsec, firejail, seccomp, etc.), but never heard of easy ways to apply it on win.


Ah that makes sense, and it's probably the way the majority of people using it would want it to happen.

I'm not sure how widely used this would be, but would it be possible to have it launch bash scripts as well as apps? That way I could manually deal with anything 'special'. (just tried it before I asked and it didn't seem to let me drag them into a group)


I didn't know I wanted this until now, and now I really want it. I often open a ton of related applications, and then avoid restarting my computer because it's incovenient to reopen everything.

I'm on Linux, so I won't be able to use your app, but great idea and good luck!


I like the sound of this, and its something i might try out... I am using FAKE in the office for automated builds on local desktops... Bud could be a replacement...

That's an easy problem to solve, as Microsoft would be around and able to supply that. As long as 3rd party software is delivered as .NET .exe files they should easily run, probably even when p/invoking, as long as the OS comes with the necessary standard .dlls. Actually I'm quite certain Windows RT already has all this solved under the hood.

what about audio ?

next task would be to support some kind of synaptic that would update windows's menu with linux apps...


Perhaps they should consider adding an option to install something into launchd that just does this.

It might be nice to have something like this with very, very limited interactions to run in the background while programming or whatever.

I think the article gave that as an example of what the system should enable, rather than a prerequisite for launch. The system wide message bus and semantic shortcuts features should make it really easy for developers of advanced peripherals to plug into the system.

For example, a Kinect would be a lot more useful in ideal OS. You could bind gestures to window manager commands, for example.


This seems like it does fill a need, but what I'd really rather avoid the Windows scenario, where each and every single app has its own auto-update manager - in addition to the system update manager. That just becomes a redundant mess very easily.

Interesting... Maybe this is the way to bring Assistant to the desktop? (and, perhaps, to Linux?)

This is a good idea. Like an OS-independent RedHat, focusing on the apps.
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