Sorry, if you break into the Capitol intending to stop the Constitutional certification of an election, insurrection is accurate whether you used guns or not.
So storming the US Capitol is okay, and to be expected in the future? What will you say when Democrats do it? Will it be insurrection in that case? I mean, explicitly stating the purpose is to overturn the election. When does it become insurrection, exactly? Does it not count when 'patriots' are doing it to 'save the country'?
Are you referring to various legal shenanigans? Is it really an "insurrection" if it is a process within the legal system? I don't think so. And I don't think Trump at any point endorsed any theory involving a storming of the capitol, as he never called for anybody to storm the capitol.
Wait, breaking and entering into the capitol is “illegal parading”? I think insurrection is the wrong word too since it was more of a joke than a serious coup attempt, but when they actually broke into the building that was a big security issue.
Wasn't their goal to stop the handover of power to Biden? Weren't they using force to achieve that goal by attacking the capitol building to stop congress from being able to proceed?
How is that not an attempt to end democracy. An insurrection.
The ringleaders seemed to be well aware that the objective was to invalidate the election and keep trump president. How is that not an insurrection?
Right, if invading the nation's capital building for a few hours is considered insurrection, then much more so is taking over the part of Portland around the mayor's office, along with property destruction and violence towards other citizens. If we want to get technical, the latter is most definitely the sort of insurrection that would allow lawful military intervention by the president.
You're ignoring what I wrote entirely. We're not calling it an insurrection because it's a protest. We're calling it an insurrection because it's a protest with the express stated goal of overthrowing the democratically elected government.
I'm saying an interruption of govt is not an 'insurrection'.
So yes, failure to move to your car for a street sweeper and interrupt govt activities is also not an insurrection.
Don't tell any of the media this example though, they will have 4 talking heads debate if Trump not moving his car for a street sweeper was an insurrection.
They invaded the capitol with the sole intention of disrupting congress and preventing a constitutionally mandated handover of power to a democratically elected government. This was an attack on the democracy of the United States, not a building. To portray it as anything else is disingenuous.
They wanted to occupy the Capitol building, using force if necessary, to nullify the results of the 2020 elections. What is that called, if you can't bring yourself to call it taking over the government?
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