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This is great news for Matrix also. With a widely known project like Teamspeak adopting it as a protocol, others might follow.

Speaking of Teamspeak 5 - I hope the new client doesn't hog multiple gigabytes of RAM. Being lightweight is one of the reasons I prefer Teamspeak over Discord.



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TeamSpeak 5 actually uses Matrix under the hood, with a proprietary voice protocol and TeamSpeak-specific room version.

It's too bad Teamspeak stopped existing as the excellence it was in the Teamspeak 2/3 era. By the end of TS3 they had already implemented nagware that would kill TS3 servers every $x months unless you reinstalled $latest. And now with Teamspeak 5 it's just Matrix. And Matrix is a super heavy protocol. You can't just spin up a matrix server on some random low end VPS with 512 MB of ram.

Teamspeak used to be the best. I used it for a decade. It's only within the last couple years as they've tried to become Discord that it's started going downhill. Teamspeak 3 was solid enough but soon they implemented the artificial lifetime, you had to re-authenticate your server every year (and sometimes more often). Then they got rid of the old forums and wiped everything clean. It hasn't been the same. I stopped using TS recently.

I do use matrix, but only because of the pandemic. And matrix itself only does 1-to-1 voice. For multiple it has a system to shunt you over to jitsi and autoconfigure the room. So I don't see how TS5 is going to use matrix.


Maybe Matrix can learn from Discord's technology choices? :)

For Discord, matrix could already be a good alternative.

I do not use Discord but I'm under the impression that it has voice channels like Mumble and Teamspeak whereas Matrix does not (yet) have them. This is a big deal-breaker for many teams and I'm definitely waiting until it has that feature before I deploy my own server.

For a chat-only replacement, it's definitely perfect.


Hmm, their developers seem to imply otherwise:

> TS.ChrisR - TeamSpeak Staff - 30d

> We use the Matrix protocol only for the messenger part.

https://community.teamspeak.com/t/beta-signup/13749/50

Other mentions of it here:

https://community.teamspeak.com/t/teamspeak-development-stat...

https://community.teamspeak.com/t/teamspeak-development-stat...

Matrix themselves talked about it: https://matrix.org/blog/2020/10/09/this-week-in-matrix-2020-...


A that's good to hear. It's basically the last missing feature that hold my company back from using matrix. BTW, Discord does have threads now.

I'm truly hoping the Matrix protocol takes off.

(FWIW, /me has been using Matrix-based chat clients for group and individual chats at conferences. Quite happy with it.)


I wish there was a similar client that has full feature support but that's the problem with matrix, too many features, signal, discord, slack, zoom and teams all meshed into one thing. Would be nice if they had a secure chat only sub-protocol.

Matrix protocol is a great fit for FOSS projects, Discord isn't.

It's been a chat client for such a long time that I think it makes sense to add Matrix support, which is a much more modern protocol than the others supported. I think we've all just forgot that it has chat features, since it only supported protocols like Google Talk, IRC, and XMPP.

Yes but the current UX for that is terrible. With the proposed MSC linked in the blog post, Matrix will additionally gain Teamspeak/Discord like voice channels [1].

With this we could finally have a proper Teamspeak/Mumble bridge for voice that gets properly represented on the Matrix side which is amazing :D

Also kinda funny that Teamspeak only recently started using Matrix for their global chat feature [2].

Maybe now after the gitter acquisition, Element should consider acquiring a certain voice-focused company ;)

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[1] https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals/blob/mat...

[2] https://community.teamspeak.com/t/teamspeak-5-beta-bug-repor...


Glad you use matrix and not discord!

Yes of course, Matrix too. In fact i am waiting for them to make it easy to integrate existing user base to switch to them. Matrix will probably be the ultimate replacement to discord, because it lends itself naturally to the case of a medium sized game-based community.

Good, but what about Rust project jumping to Discord instead? They should have used Matrix as well.

I spent some time looking into this recently. My vs was rocket chat.

While Matrix is very impressive in its ambition, in the end we went with rocket chat because it's more mature, and frankly a simpler stack is easier to wrap your head around and start making meaningful changes.

That said, I really hope this ends up being a useful protocol for interoperation between services. The potential is huge.


I'll have to look into Matrix. I have been looking for something to replace discord. I have so many gripes about discord but I'll give you the most egregious. I cannot share a screenshot because I have a 1440p monitor and the output file is over 5mb. Sometimes my dislike of discord feels like I am an old man yelling at clouds but then I remember the 5mb transfer limit.

Heh. I get why you're using Discord, but it's unfortunate that a project building on Matrix does not use it for chat.
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