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I wonder if anyone has tried not paying their US jurisdiction property taxes that lives on supposedly Indian land now.


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No, have you seen how the tribes treat their land in America? Stewards of the land they are not

You cannot adversely possess a US government's land. Tribes have similar sovereign rights.

Native American land laws are a disaster, and it’s not their fault. It’s a large contributor to poverty as well. I’m still not sure if that was an unintended or intended consequence of US govt treaties.

I was thinking the same thing, if what the court was saying was that the land has always been a reservation, then, uh, get ready for the mother of all tax refunds.

Do Native Americans not pay any tax at all? Or are they still obligated to pay federal taxes.

So crimes committed by Americans on reservation land are basically unchargeable now?

> Tribe members who live within the boundaries are now set to become exempt from certain state obligations such as paying state taxes

What about everyone else? Shouldn't they pay taxes to the tribe?


For a few things, it really is like being in another country. Some tribes used to require you to pay traffic tickets on the spot, because they had no legal recourse once you left the reservation.

Guess how I know...

And yea, there are even fairly recent cases even saying States can't collect road taxes on trucks driving between reservations, on state highways.

Taxes are one of the clearest exemptions spelled out not just in the treaties, but in the actual US Constitution.


> as they transfer money in compensation that's fair and represents the value of the land

I mean, if I'm a native American, I am not going to have a whole lot of faith in that process...


Native americans do pay the same federal income tax as everyone else. Tribes don't pay federal tax. If you live on a reservation, you generally don't pay state income tax. It is kinda complicated.

Why not? If they're on tribal land, what's to stop the tribe from governing?

If it was legally owned by the tribe it would still run into issues with violating local state laws for any loans issues outside of tribal territories.

You seem to be assuming that something is right because it is the law. I'm inclined to question that assumption.

I could also make the usual snarky comment and say that by the letter of the "law" we owe native americans a whole bunch of land. Maybe even the land your house is on.


> You could head out into an unclaimed area of land, stake out a piece, and live off it.

The native would probably disagree with the `unclaimed' bit.


I wonder if Native American tribes are able to ignore government request? That is whom I deal with each day.

Do you live in the U.S.? If so, it's likely that any property that you or you employer own was also taken from the Indians at some point. Maybe your ancestors even lived off slave labor. Are you offering to give back your own ill-gotten wealth?

Land in the US is slowly being returned to native American groups.

Thanks for posting the interesting example of “taxation without representation”.

A couple other interesting things related:

1) One East Coast tribe was not defeated militarily. It's lands were gradually nibbled away with lawyering (zoning changes) over a period of decades.

2) During the Western Indian Wars, an equal number of soldiers and warriors died on both sides, about 10,000 each.


If reservations weren't US land - and if you're making treaties with the owners then it's at least sort of "not US land" - then they weren't born in the country.
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