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Yeah sure, I more meant “I can’t piss off my voters” as an argument in legal proceedings. This gives me the chills.


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That’s not what that means. See [1] - “States will define as political crimes any behaviour perceived as a threat, real or imagined, to the state's survival, including both violent and non-violent oppositional crimes”

As in it’s political not because of party politics, but because it’s threatened the power of politically powerful people and agencies in the US establishment.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_crime


> Providing legal representation to those who may have been denied a fair trial

This is partisan?


I am no political expert, but “my opponent is harming your children’s health” seems like it can move some votes.

Very combative statement. But when you’ve got a very conservative republican teaming up with a very liberal democrat on this legislation, combative may be the only option you have.

> or even less charged words like ‘Democrat’ or ‘Republican,'”

Not sure those carry any less charge


Oh, come on. Anytime a politician of any party uses that line it's a load of crap. If they supported the policy they'd find the legal authority perfectly acceptable.

Can you cite your source for this? I've never heard of a politician retaliating against a constituent for voicing their concerns.

The message of the article is _we are not enemies_ not "don't fight."

Fellow Americans should be able to disagree and settle the conflict with elections. Enemies wish for each other's destruction, and while it may be how you feel, it is not the right frame of mind to take when attempting exchange of ideas on policy.


Well, that's a fair point and I'll ask for clarification when I see something in quotes next time. When a disqualifying statement (not "the enemy") is flipped like that and directly applied to something, it carries more weight, especially when a loaded term like "enemy" is used. Politicians get in trouble for "with us or against us" rhetoric all the time. Not everything is so black and white, unless you make a compelling case that it is.

The thing I find amusing/terrifying is that people are now claiming the moral high ground over how it was handled originally (context be damned), while still using it as a political stick to beat people with - one key point here is the distinction between political and partisan disputes.

It was an attempted paraphrase of one party's position for two people who seemed to be talking past each other. It was not stated as my position.

If you have concerns based solely upon party affiliation then your concerns are suspect.

And?

You may disagree with them, you might even consider them your political enemies, but their lawsuit still deserves to be evaluated on its merits, not partisanship.


Eh when your consider things like this; https://www.fox7austin.com/news/texas-gop-chair-suggests-law...

>Texas GOP chair says 'law-abiding states' should 'form a union' after SCOTUS rejects election suit

I feel there may be a real point to that. Is he being a bit emotional with his post? Sure. Should that be enough to write off a possible threat to democracy? No. I mean if that alienates you, I expect what the TX GOP chair did will REALLY make you passionate


It isn't. The person above is trying to browbeat you for holding an opinion which is not advantageous to the election prospects of their preferred politician.

I didn't make a partisan distinction, only described the thought process for how someone justifies the use of political violence instead of the legal and democratic process.

“We have political opposition” is not a good excuse in a representative system.

I'm not sure how saying your opponents are frothing at the mouth or calling them a fringe base of extreme voters who hold their reps at their mercy is any more cooperative.

The intent to marginalize the opposition and justify ignoring their concerns remains the same.


I'm not sure how you can separate politicians and party doctrine.

Particularly when the press secretary for the governor who signed this bill is calling everyone who opposes the bill a grooomer: https://twitter.com/ChristinaPushaw/status/14998907196910510...

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