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Mozilla's main income comes from Google being default search engine on Firefox. I think it's about half a billion dollars per year.

It's in their absolute best interest to market Firefox as much as possible.



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I believe that most of Mozilla's revenue comes from Google profit-sharing, because they make it the default search engine.

Mozilla made 530M in 2016 - they're a company. Firefox is is a strategical business decision. Their interest in the web is the exact same interest as Google's in the web. $$$.

Firefox is extremely profitable. Years ago they took in 30 million per year just by having google as their default search engine.

This is what pays their bills. Major source of income for Mozilla is Google paying to be default search engine

Firefox has about $500 million USD revenue per year.

https://techcrunch.com/2021/12/13/mozilla-expects-to-generat...


Technically Google is the one paying Mozilla CEO's $7m salary.

Clearly a good investment, Firefox market share is lower and lower, and has been steadily declining since Google became Mozilla's main income source.


It gets a fixed amount of money from Google for using them as the default search engine. But what I meant was Firefox has no means to actual generate an income in its own right. Mozilla have tried. The reactions have not been good.

The money from Google is practically a donation at this point. It's not exactly an altruistic one but it's not exactly a pure business transaction either given Firefox's current market share.


530M out of 600M of their revenue is from royalties, so from a certain perspective Mozilla's primary business is actually serving Google to FF users :/

They spend 111M out of 340M on managerial overhead, or about a third. This is on the higher side, but not too much out of line with the general industry (not saying that it's a good thing, but that's how the world works).

I have to wonder though, how much of that money is actually spent on Firefox? 530M in royalties, how much is that per FF user?


The vast majority of Mozilla's revenue comes from a search deal with Google.

Mozilla has quite a bit of money, most of it from their default search engine deals. I'd wager to guess that most of it goes to wages.

But Firefox (Mozilla foundation) make around $100 million a year from Google already.

Most of Mozilla revenue comes from patnerships for the default search engine.

"One thing Mozilla does have going for it is a lot of money—more than $1 billion in cash reserves, according to its latest financial statement. The primary source of this capital is Google, which pays Mozilla to be the default search engine on the Firefox home page. Those payments, which started in 2005, have been increasing—up 50% over the past decade, to more than $450 million, even as the total number of Firefox users has plummeted. In 2021 these payments accounted for 83% of Mozilla’s revenue[0]."

They depend on Google.

[0] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2023-05-05/why-go...


Nothing. The Mozilla Corporation pays for the development of Firefox with:

1. Google's fee for default search (the vast majority of their revenue)

2. Paid Firefox services (Mozilla VPN, MDN Plus, etc)

Remember that there are things we don't have any control over in life. You have no control over the success or failure of Firefox because its financial means of survival are controlled by people who are not you (unless you feel like signing up for a VPN).

My understanding is that the Mozilla Corporation is doing just fine for itself. They even have some financial information published [PDF]: https://assets.mozilla.net/annualreport/2021/mozilla-fdn-202...


What? The primary revenue source of Mozilla is Firefox due to the search engine revenue they get

This is totally incorrect. The majority of Mozilla's current funding comes from a deal with Google to make them the default search engine in Firefox. Google pays for this because search traffic is valuable.

Mozilla gets the bulk of their money from Google. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation#Google

And doesn't most of Firefox's revenues come from Google?

Stupid question, but doesn't Mozilla make around $500MM revenue a year, and have a little over 1000 employees. That seems like it should be profitable.
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