Indian Americans are on the top. Russian Americans are 12th in the list. Dutch Americans are 54th.
Do you think that this is a proof of Indian supremacy and Dutch mediocrity? Or is there a policy that systematically oppresses whites of Dutch ancestry and elevates whites of Russian ancestry?
So you give the example of Britain plundering India. Explain to me why Indians in America are the most successful ethnic group in the country then, at almost twice the median income of white people?
There’s a lot of confusion caused by thinking that “white people” are a coherent group. For example, we talk about racial income gaps as if incomes among white ethnic groups are uniform. But there’s a huge gap between those who report themselves on the census as “American” Americans (usually Scots Irish folks who came here long ago) rank near the bottom of the income distribution, lower than recent immigrant groups like Bangladeshis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_U...
White people descended from Europeans are the seventh most successful ethic group in this country. The "luckiest" are Indian Americans, they beat Jewish Americans nearly 10k a year.
Even after controlling for ethnicity and income there are quite big geographical variations. White people in the upper mid-west are a lot healthier and long lived than whites elsewhere, for example.
Comparing an extremely heterogeneous country like America to ethnically monolithic countries like Finland or Japan is always an error.
Yup, you must be right, there are only rich white people in America. I was commenting that although the vast majority of European countries and also Canada tend to have single-digit percentages of visible minorities compared to 34% of the United States, they are often quick to accuse the U.S. of racism, or fail to understand the implications of a truly multicultural society. Germany has 6% of its population with ancestry outside of Europe, yet there is this "Integrationsfrage" that gets a more lip service than you can imagine. Basically, it is encouraging a lot of countries quite literally to look in a mirror before judging. The U.S. education system has failings, but its populace is fundamentally different what the above commenter was trying to compare it to.
"not white" isn't a race or demographic. african americans aren't the same as african-africans, and those are different from mexican, indian, asian, native american, etc.
and given how indians and east asians tend to be the overall wealthiest demographics, plus the "hispanic paradox", suggests that this is a way more complex issue then you're framing it.
Comparing ethnically homogenous countries to the US is meaningless and downright deliberately misleading at best. There is significant variation in every state by race.
The correct comparison is European ancestry to European ancestry, excluding first and second generation, not "American whites" vs. Finns.
True. But since the number of European immigrants to the US and non-white native Finns is very low, the correct comparison is unlikely to differ significantly from the numbers given. So technically you are right, but I don't think there will be much difference in practice. Do you disagree?
It's also the best comparison currently possible, since I don't know of any data set that provides more granular data than what Sanandaji used. Do you?
As a race, yes, but many tend to be immigrants that came to the US after the breakup of the USSR and come from different backgrounds than American-born whites, with mainly western-European backgrounds. They constitute a sizable bloc of their own that would be interesting to see the data from.
Fifteen largest ancestries in the United States as self reported
in the 2000 Census:[58]
Rank Ancestry Number Percent of total
population
— U.K. (1801–1922) 66,224,627[59] 23.3%[59]
1 German 42,841,569 15.2%
2 Irish 30,524,799 10.8%
3 African 24,903,412 8.8%
4 English 24,509,692 8.7%
5 American 20,188,305 7.2%
6 Mexican 18,382,291 6.5%
7 Italian 15,638,348 5.6%
8 Polish 8,977,235 3.2%
9 French 8,309,666 3.0%
10 American Indian
and
Alaskan Native 7,876,568 2.8%
11 Scottish 4,890,581 1.7%
12 Dutch 4,541,770 1.6%
13 Norwegian 4,477,725 1.6%
14 Scotch-Irish 4,319,232 1.5%
15 Chinese 4,010,114 1.4%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_U...
Indian Americans are on the top. Russian Americans are 12th in the list. Dutch Americans are 54th.
Do you think that this is a proof of Indian supremacy and Dutch mediocrity? Or is there a policy that systematically oppresses whites of Dutch ancestry and elevates whites of Russian ancestry?
Obviously none of those is true.
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