But isn't the whole original point of the vaccine to protect those that are older and less healthy? Younger and healthier are at less risk to serious adverse reactions to Covid, having less comorbidities. Besides that, it seems that adverse reactions to the vaccine tend to skew younger, with the risk of heart issues going up, relative to a covid infection, the younger you are.
The risk profile for all the age groups is wildly different. I don't think its a bad idea for people > age X to get this vaccine, one because they have a much higher risk of serious harm from corona _AND_ perhaps less risk of long term affects. But for someone who has very low risk of serious harm from corona, perhaps it makes sense to wait a little bit?
For young healthy people this virus is not something that justifies the media hysteria. I believe that for under 30's you have more chance of an adverse reaction to the vaccine than to the virus.
Frankly this seems like hype. We know that COVID poses very little risk for most of the population, and it's claimed that these vaccines are still highly effective in the elderly population that are at risk.
So just use the vaccines in the older population where the risk/benefit tradeoff is very likely to be positive, and stop stressing about getting absolutely everyone vaccinated.
I don't know about this specific case but previously (e.g. with AZ) the concern was not that a specific vaccine had worse side effects on younger people.
It was a balance of the risks of the vaccine pretty much in general versus the risks of Covid by age range.
So basically if the risk of Covid is high it makes to get any vaccine available. But if the risk of Covid is very, very low then you may start considering what the risks of getting the vaccine are.
It also seems like, in the absence of assurance of long-term safety, you would recommend the vaccine for at-risk groups only. It's known now that the risk to young people (under 19) is minimal: IFR < 3/1,000,000. And that was during the much more dangerous early strain of Covid-19, not the ones circulating now. Yet here we are in 2022 with a recommendation from the CDC to vaccinate ages 5 and up, regardless of health condition.
There are safer vaccines so there is little point in risking this one. That said, it depends on how many future infections people that age face.
If this vaccine is causing at most 4 deaths per million people* vs 648 recorded US covid deaths 15-24 out of a population of 43.5 million. 4 * 43.5 = ~174 < 648. So, it would have been noticeably safer for a random 20 year old American to have taken it Jan 2020 than risk covid. https://knoema.com/atlas/United-States-of-America/topics/Dem...
So if the total future infections are say 1/4 the total infections up to this point then their roughly equivalent risks. Tipping one way or the other based on actual number of infections.
* It’s rare enough that actual risks aren’t clear, but assuming the vaccine is the cause we can assume the risks are at or below that level.
That's true, but from the data I've seen, the risk to under 18s of Covid is still higher for both hospitalization and death than that of the vaccine heart inflammation potential rare side effect. That said, compared to over 18, I admit it is not as clear cut, and I can understand being more hesitant.
"My concern is not about dying as much as it is about developing long Covid and other not fully confirmed potential complications."
You and most people who are skeptical about the coronavirus vaccines share the exact same concern. But it sounds like you want them to be institutionally deprioritized because of theirs.
Interesting that younger generation is willing to go for the shots, according to my impression danger curve for the shots compared to covid is vaccines better for elderly, and worse for young. Not to mention all the unknown health implications for the future if spike protein can increase chances of cancer or similar.
I wonder if older gen has seen enough to not take everything at face value.
For that goal wouldn't it make more sense to vaccinate only the risk populations like older people, overweight people and people with respiratory issues? That way you avoid promoting vaccine-resistant variants while protecting people that are likely to be hospitalized, hospitalizations are really low in younger people, and almost zero in kids. I think for example in Spain for all populations below 50 years old there has been more suicide deaths than Covid deaths since the pandemic started.
You could argue that it can still be good to take vaccines even if it's not to protect yourself, to reduce transmission, but seeing the recent examples of Singapore and Gibraltar with >90% vaccination rates and cases exploding that this hypothesis should be revised.
Also I haven't seen many studies evaluating the efficacy of vaccine that also take into account the seasonality of Covid waves, which makes me skeptic seeing the cases exploding as the cold weather arrives.
umm this seems non-ideal. I assume people want to be vaccinated against the damages covid causes, neurological, cardiovascular, etc, not just against the symptoms of covid.
Vaccinate all people greater than 40 years old, preferably anyone and resume a normal life.
Even though the vaccine doesn't prevent to catch covid to high degree, it still prevent deaths and hospitalizations to more than 90% (whether Delta or not, and whether Aztrazaneca or Pfizer or Moderna)
Long Covid seems to exists, but it is about 2-3% of cases so nothing to really worry about more than any other disease.
Maybe at some point the vaccine won't protect from a new variant and things will change. But so far so good. And even at this point, Lockdowns and masks mania doesn't seem to be give a better output than asking citizen to be careful and try to limit meeting too many people (Sweden)
Scary things, as if the other known long term damages from Covid-19 were not enough. In any case, the vaccination should be magnitudes less risky than catching Covid-19. And as things are, there is a likelyhood that basically everyone would get infected at some time, if we don't put a hard stop to this.
It doesn't depend on age or comorbidities. Covid vaccines - of any type - are orders of magnitude safer than getting infected by a "live" and constantly mutating virus.
Yes, but those are different people that might be killed, which makes it an ethical dilemma.
Depending on the type of adverse reaction, it might be safer for young people to not get vaccinated at all or with a different vaccine. (For example if the adverse reaction affects mostly young people, while COVID affects mostly older people.)
This way we avoid deaths due to Covid and at the same time don't put healthy individuals at risk that would have only mild symptoms due to Covid.
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