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Do online casinos check whether some coins are dirty?


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You sell the clean first. You are assumed to always be holding 0.1 dirty coins, so you must keep a balance > 0.1 at all times to avoid spending the dirty coins.

How?

If were in your shoes I'd start with optimizing the coin and the surface it falls on. Gambling cheaters will coat their hands with sticky stuff so they can take an extra chip here or there, if you coat the edge of the coin with that kind of stuff it would help I think.


If you kept all of the coins from a pool, you'd be caught.

But would I ever know if you lied about the pool's GH/s rate and kept half of the coins?


Really holding user's coins?

Sure, but you can do the same thing with an arcade or coin operated car wash by just converting your dirty money to quarters too.

Without knowing what sort of influence it has — it’s difficult to construct a general method, though, please check my idea and see if this achieves the purpose.

First you find a gambler, any gambler and ask them to show you the lowest denomination coin they have, and get them to verify for you that it is a fair coin. Now demonstrate your weird coin to them, and when they are amazed by its properties, swap it with them for the fair coin. Done.


if I'd had a tumbler, my number one priority would be to add code to detect those coins and keep them (redirect to my wallets after the mix).

it's not like the owners will be able to complain. not even in forums to lower your cred.


No. They ran the coins through a Coin Mixer: https://coinmixer.net

No way, they have awesome fast coin counting machines at banks. You dump it in and it counts in real-time, like 15 seconds and you're done.

pre-mined coins are considered dishonourable, but they are very common in alt-coin space.

I have seen fake pound coins in the wild. My brother who does electronics work on fruit machines (low-stakes gambling terminals) has said he sees them all the time.

I couldn't tell you whether defrauding such machines is the 'killer app' to drive coin counterfeiting on a large scale. The UK has millions of betting machines with small payouts (e.g. £50) but a smaller number with larger payouts, concentrated in betting shops, casinos etc.


So if 2 good coins and 2 bad coins go into a UTXO, then that's split to a 3 coin and a 1 coin output, is the 1 coin tainted?

But how effective are they if you’re putting in half of the tumbler’s pot? As in, if you put in a quarter of a million dollars, and others do too, you have a high likelihood of getting some of yours back. So the coins are still traceable to you.

I wonder what the false negative rate for this coin will be in vending machines. When the coins are subjected to real-world conditions, will this reduce the coin's ability to authenticate with the vending machine? If the coins are being authenticated using a chemical marker of some kind, will the coins' exposure to other chemicals, dirt, or temperature affect the coins' ability to authenticate?

perhaps i can find common red flags then, i do hope legit coins appear more than 1% tho

When the state seizes the coins they are magically clean at this point and are put back into circulation via the auction process.

Not all states will respect that so yes chainanalysis software will have to be updated to account for that and it does affect the fungibility


This paper assumes that the coin is caught.

You do realize there are almost 100 000 coins out there. How many of those have you actually researched about and come to the conclusion that they lacked "real world utility". Does a casino provide "real world utility"? What about a boxing match.. is there any "real world utility" in that?

That may be the case but don't pretty much all coins have this potential issue?
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