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Waterluvian · 2021-05-15 22:04:25+00:00

I tried to get Voice Over working but scroll broke once enabled. It says three fingers to scroll but that just won't work for me.

favorited | karma 4158 | avg karma 3.89 · | 2018-06-19 21:29:52+00:00

It also doesn't work with VoiceOver at all... :(

walterbell | karma 84571 | avg karma 5.55 · | 2015-05-14 23:47:17

I've enabled VoiceOver for testing but had not seen that gesture, thanks for the pointer. It is useful but slightly awkward as you need both fingers to retain contact with the screen while rotating, which is challenging for a 360 degree rotation :)

10dpd | karma 870 | avg karma 2.57 · | 2016-06-29 20:07:59+00:00

Note this doesn't work with VoiceOver at all.

pax_blind | karma 1 | avg karma 1.0 · | 2023-11-25 03:06:36

just enable voiceover

user-the-name | karma 902 | avg karma 0.45 · | 2021-05-15 23:58:44

VoiceOver is a completely different UI. You need to learn how it works before attempting to use it.

EricMuller22 | karma 20 | avg karma 1.82 · | 2014-02-03 19:25:30

While we're talking about voice overs, let's talk about the one that actually matters - try turning on Voice Over mode and navigating the app the way a visually impaired user would. It is completely and utterly unusable.

ummonk | karma 11811 | avg karma 2.67 · | 2021-02-27 00:50:09

Have you tried using voice controls? Not perfect but they work well enough in my experience.

johlindenbaum | karma 129 | avg karma 2.58 · | 2015-01-15 15:45:50+00:00

You should try VoiceOver and the gestures that come with it, it's mind blowing how well it works. I've found plenty of usability improvements that are really easy to make so that VoiceOver works flawlessly in apps I've worked on.

jankins | karma 172 | avg karma 2.02 · | 2015-11-06 11:19:02+00:00

Unfortunately I don't see how a system like this could be accessible using the native accessibility tools like voiceover, and so IMO is a non-starter. The FAQ doesn't seem to address it.

veidr | karma 8357 | avg karma 4.56 · | 2022-11-22 10:14:01

That is right, and I did try it, but they made it so that if you enable that then voice input no longer works. (T_T)

joshuanomed | karma 22 | avg karma 1.38 · | 2023-01-20 13:57:35

Do you use a Mac? If so try using Voiceover. It takes some getting used to and if you’re used to being a speedwhiz on the keyboard…you may find it frustratingly slow but I found it helpful when I lost use of one of my hands for a week.

twobitshifter | karma 4347 | avg karma 2.5 · | 2021-12-29 16:02:02

Have you tried using voice control?

mlang23 | karma 2130 | avg karma 2.69 · | 2020-11-09 11:34:08+00:00

If the carrier hasn't fucked with the defaults, you should be able to launch VoiceOver with a tripple-press on the home button. I don't know how it works with the new home-button-less devices, I dont have any of those.

gostsamo | karma 4487 | avg karma 3.15 · | 2020-08-31 13:21:23+00:00

Not sure, there are some tools to help, but I'm not front end dev and haven't used them. However, you can install a screen reader and try the browsing shortcuts on your website.

Voice over is installed by default on Macs, NVDA is free and open source for Windows, and Orca is on Linux.

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aidenn0 | karma 26449 | avg karma 2.17 · | 2021-11-05 17:01:28

I'm not at my C2 right now, but IIRC Fn+(Button with the picture of a microphone) sends a scroll-lock event on it. Perhaps that works on a K4?

gostsamo | karma 4487 | avg karma 3.15 · | 2021-05-22 05:20:10

This can be a valuable accessibility tool, especially on inaccessible apps. Have you looked into checking its compatibility with Voice Over?

LeoNatan25 | karma 3174 | avg karma 2.35 · | 2017-08-20 23:39:19+00:00

In such case, this is what I feared; I don’t think it is possible to implement proper VoiceOver support with the current public API.

You should file bug reports with Apple to enable that.

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nafizh | karma 4395 | avg karma 6.24 · | 2018-04-02 07:41:51+00:00

I just tried it, this is so awesome. Btw, so you have to manually select the text, and only then the voice option comes ?

mwcampbell | karma 10942 | avg karma 3.15 · | 2021-05-26 08:48:59

To expand on this:

Windows also has the Narrator screen reader built in, and in Windows 10, Narrator is a decent screen reader IMO. (Disclosure: I used to be on the Windows accessibility team at Microsoft, where I worked on Narrator.) To enable Narrator, press Ctrl+Win+Enter. Narrator has a built-in tutorial (not written by me) to help you get started.

Mac and iOS has VoiceOver built in. To enable it on Mac, press Command+F5. On iOS, you may be able to triple-press the home button, on devices that have one. Failing that, you can find it in Settings.

Android has TalkBack built in. You can find it somewhere in Settings; the specifics are device-dependent.

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