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YC provides seed money. No one should rely on YC for due diligence.


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There is no way seed funding from YC should be considered self-financed. Even money from family shouldn't be considered self-financed.

What makes you assume YC has no ethical basis for investment?

Why? There's nothing special about YC, they're venture capitalists like any other.

No surprise that they want to make shitloads of cash through whatever dubious, underhanded means they think they can get away with.


I guess YC doesn't take any responsibility for the companies they fund and endorse.

YC has funded scummy companies before. InstallMonetizer comes to mind.

In their defense, I don't think YC claims to not find scummy shit. To me it seems that they have a moral compass comparable most financial institutions, i.e. none.


YC has never invested particularly morally knowing many of their founders and companies. I wouldn't say it's their strong suit.

Why did YC fund this fairly obvious fraud?

YC isn't responsible for the actions of the founders of every start-up that they fund. Even worse: after funding them they have very limited ability to influence the companies they funded, after all, YC has a small minority stake and founders could just ignore them. Obviously YC can cut them off from further capital and blackball them but that may not be sufficient.

Advice and a little bit of seed capital does not constitute "a central organization directing the economics." I think your conception of what YC does for accepted companies is pretty far from reality.

Of course, but they're liable to damage their reputation as a VC firm if they continue funding garbage without vetting it at all, just cause someone's techbro buddy asked nicely for YC's backing.

We are not funded by YC.

We are not YC funded.

YC is delegitimizing itself by funding crypto startups at all. Textbook example of a solution in search of a problem.

It doesn't matter. YC isn't some not for profit BS. They're not handing out free money. If its a beauty contest, it's because they think the start ups are beautiful.

Expect them to take a half a million dollar bet on you based on their own metrics; as scientific or gut as they allow. Just because you think they're dog shit doesn't mean they are. And some partner at YC saw something in them and _that's_ what matters, no?


As I've said elsewhere, having dealt with them and seen who they invest in, morality does not seem to be an important aspect of YC investments.

You should make it clearer in the title and the form that you're not associated with YC or any other seed funding group.

These days, being associated with the YC brand is at least as valuable as the mentoring for the purposes of raising money. I don't think that's necessarily a good thing for these emerging companies and founders.

creates a bad impression for otherwise reputed YC startups..

I understand. You need to protect a YC-funded startup from criticism. No problem. I get it. Money is more important.

Just go ahead and delete everything I have written on this thread. That will be the easiest path.

Lesson learned, don't be critical of YC companies.

Got it.

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