We all know it's about money. It's more of a reflection about how little money knowledge makes you, and how much money selling clothes, makeup, and other self-image enhancers makes.
The message this sends to girls is that if you’re pretty, this is the easiest way to make a lot of money. It damages the work of people who have spent decades trying to get women to be valued for things other than their bodies.
At least from my perspective, the ROI is often negative. Lipstick looks varying degrees of clownish to me, and if I can’t see your pores you look like a robot. I don’t blame anyone for doing whatever makes them feel beautiful; I’m sure my choices look distasteful to some. But a look enabled by product works because it has been sold to us, men and women alike.
Cosmetics are a billion dollar industry, why do you write it off so quickly? People pay money to make their face look different from others, why wouldn't they pay money to make their digital self different?
There are a lot of products and techniques that help people look more beautiful. However, at its core beauty relates to both age and heath and as such it's less superficial than is generally portrayed.
Taking this back to buying experiences. IMO, there is basic expenses like buying gas or shampoo which don’t cheapen things. But the further extremes you go like plastic surgery or renting out a hotel not just a room you’re inherently worse off.
For all the midlife crises, it doesn't really help someone who's not already confident/sexy/rich, though. It's an expensive accessory, like a watch. Makeup is a fair analogy, in that men like to impress other men with their cars and (most) women don't bother being made-up everyday for men.
I think you're underestimating personal vanity. Plastic surgery and teeth whitening has SPIKED since the pandemic started because people are looking at their own faces on zoom all day in tiny boxes next to their coworkers. People will drop endless cash to make themselves look better on camera.
I frequent the reddit beauty forums and hobbyist non-engineers who have zoom meetings for work are dropping $$ on Diva Lights and video filtering apps etc.
Just today driving to the carwash I passed three strip mall aesthetic places advertising fillers and botox.
I posted a tutorial on how to set up a green screen and diva light and within a week I had three coworkers order them- I joked with DVE Store that I should start getting a commission.
Swaths of consumer products are targeted at people with self esteem issues. Fashion, makeup, fitness performance, jewelry luxury and stats products of allmstripes. It's especially bad for young women who are bombarded with Photoshoped images of "perfection" and reminders that attractiveness = success and that sex sells.
I am vain enough to understand why people dye their hair or wear makeup, but not nearly vain enough to understand why they would want to look like the Rich Housewives plastic surgery people, who end up looking more like plastic surgery than people.
Beauty in the world really matters. Both people and things.
But expectations being set to high on oneself is bad.
Can you have one without the other and how much are each weighted.
You can also throw in beauty is a service industry that creates jobs and personal satisfaction. Which every UBI talk says is what we will be doing when we can't work.
Given that the whole point of the post you're responding to seems to be precisely that cosmetics do in fact take you quite far, and substance isn't, in his experience, as important as he was led to believe... I rather doubt simply asserting that looks don't matter is going to change his opinion.
Insecurities, eg body image, are propogated to support the beauty and fashion industry. Just one example. Others (studies and simple empirical checks) will also corroborate this. It shouldn't be controversial, but YMMV.
There are enough real world examples of women with and without make up on where it's obviously not entirely a manufactured cost/benefit ratio. There is a real ROI for women who purchase those products.
Not to say there isn't real anxiety and pressures generated but at the same time it's not all some grand fiction created by the advertising industry like some Fight Club reductionist style ideologies like to promote.
surprised that such article appeared on a column normally dedicated to beauty tips etc. think it'll make an interesting read for those interested in the vanity business :)
Mmmm...I think it seems to make money beyond its actually making money. I read a lot of interviews about it, find them highly entertaining. I'm a male over the age of 10, that inescapably means having seen it. And was a straight male model (saying straight not as a denial being gay would be better just not gay, straight male model that's not very common) in the modeling business. Like modeling is not that incredibly much more dignified, selling how pretty you look.
Well the thing is yes women hear I got scouted total game-changer. Ends up being nobody actually judges appearance for themself, like I learned to (again, straight model) to gauge competition for a role. Figured out who is handsome and who isn't, don't have a natural sense for that. Nobody decides for himself, people in fact seek models out on the basis of vocation. Some look terrible, the ones who got work bet they looked great on 4K, just not in the same room, they were the only ones acting like I was like nah...maybe looked bad that day. But it's decadent. And everybody wants to sleep with models, especially models.
So in the other industry, people figure hey naked sexually attractive people, decadence, barely legal, anything goes? Has to be profitable. Like prostitution right? Nah. Too efficient. It's sex after all, efficiency is bad. Sex can't be too efficient. There's nothing about the business that's monopolistic, like yes yes there's names but no there's nothing there. Not going to patent any thrusts, it's all pretty old shall we say. Modeling also, similar model strips down almost as far huge camera (they put a ton of their not infinite money into capital giant cameras) takes it all in. True beauty is rare, some people are unique, that is worth something, but mostly there's no monopoly to be had. Celebrity yeah...there is celebrity. But less because people don't gossip about so-and-so, supposedly nobody on hacker news looks at any of that stuff right? Whereas models can be spoken of, actresses actors, people say the name out loud.
Modeling is the opposite of coding, instead of lots of money and few female coworkers it's little money and many female coworkers. Well not so little money like for pictures I was told there you could make good money, a Hollywood insider told me that, I was surprised, totally assumed there was no dollar in the industry.
In general ads want slightly more women than men from my experience, and the women are generally straight, and the other men are generally gay, I'm pretty much asexual since my lynching but basically straight so I fit in, pretty tolerant environment of eg the huge gaps in my resume. Like the police, I got recruited for that too, they don't care you were unemployed for four weeks or 31 days, they only care about their criteria, which is no arrests no driving accidents. Good pay. Modeling, just look good, and be relatively young, don't have to be that young if you're a man though. Like I told them at the time, yeah I was in Stanford, it was hard got told to take time off, they had no issue with that. Whereas like Fortune 500 wants a 3.0 GPA just to start off at the very least, a top twenty university, internships every summer, no gaps in the resume, like 4 interviews, we want this good now we want this good now we want this eh you're out, unpaid homework (which is disgusting, I completed it with original cutting edge research because that was easier for me than getting the hints which I can't), generated responses to try to get you to focus on just one company and then give an insulting offer. Yeah essays telling you how good a fit you are for each other and nurture and then what like there is one thing and then there are two things GPT-4 for teasing candidates. And generally refuse to hire unconditionally, just want to feel in charge, get a really big auction going. At least models didn't with another model like me.
Modeling looks harder than it actually is as far as getting paid, coding looks more profitable but also is just exploitative. Boss impoverishes you every chance he gets in Chile at least. Every metric, everywhere. You have three bosses, you have thirty reqs, you have to write an epic (they should shut the fuck up about epics around me) like the tracking, you get dunned this money, like fuck. Same as porn, fucked business model with no monopoly, always conceiving of it like cornering a market yeah just corner employees.[1] Modeling it's like the money is there, you get work great, you do get paid, if you were smart have a good agent. Dude smart female coworkers man, there's so many models that are really bright, like A+ students just beautiful in addition to that. That's something I've noticed from approaching thousands of women in real life, so much overlap between beautiful and smart, contrary to stereotypes. Just it's a classic for a beautiful woman to be very serious about her studies. One of them told me why don't they make an app so we can get our place in line stedda waiting over three hours, well first off no because those three hours are time to talk to you, and second off no because it does have an exploitative streak still. And third off uh uh, I didn't think of that. Me. I've founded apps.
So honestly I got negged by coder employers much less as a model than as a coder. Really the challenge which is why women and gay men are more plentiful than straight men is really taking care of your appearance, dermatology. Like hours a day in upkeep. Be skinny, that's important so there's that. Wear good clothes to the casting, so invest in your wardrobe, the girl I got my first portfolio done with had beautiful clothes, I neglected that. And the appearance. Like with skin straight men don't even see it, like one straight man I saw I did notice "wow great skin" and that was only because he was a dermatologist himself.
[1] Although due to the nature of torture I only got interest from crappy companies that had no business. Also Facebook, and a few others, but they always identified me as a false positive on an early round--torture, too much spine because I didn't cooperate with it, companies hate that like they hate veterans and American citizenships. Fuck.
Why cosmetics? Why not pick on smoking, drinking, or even religion? Anyone can pick some thing they don't do/like and claim those wasted resources could be better spent on their dreams. Frankly, I'm betting that a great many people would rather have makeup than a men on Mars. Every time someone buys a fashion mag instead of mailing cash to NASA they make that choice.
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