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Super rich pay several orders of magnitude more taxes than you (in absolute numbers).


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It is extremely unlikely that you are paying more in taxes than any of the super rich. You are complaining about how the tax code treats wages vs investment/passive income.

The reality is (as of 2016) the top 1% pay 37% of the total income tax bill. The top 5% (income>198K) pay 58%. The top 10% 69.5%.

On the other hand, the bottom 90% pay 30% of the tax bill, the bottom 50% only 3%.


Kind of weird to hear it when the super wealth could be paying way more taxes if they wished right now.

You're assuming that the richest person also pays the most taxes. Not necessarily the case.

I'm against the super rich, I think tax brackets on the high end should be much higher.

The share of taxes paid by the rich is greater than their share of income and wealth.

Current US tax law clearly taxes the rich more. What's more, about 85% of the taxes are paid by the top 20% [1]

When people, especially socialist, claim the rich aren't paying their fair share, it's just rhetoric.

[1]: https://www.wsj.com/articles/top-20-of-earners-pay-84-of-inc...


I think we underestimate just how much the hyper rich pay in taxes overall.

Do you have any source or proof that the wealthy pay a disproportionate amount of taxes compared to the rest of us?


Except if you look at the total taxation burden as a percentage the non-super rich already do share more of the burden.

I pay a far higher percentage of my income as tax to the society I live in than the people in the panama papers.


Is it true that the super-rich pay higher tax rates? My understanding is most of them have great accountants, and the salaries they pay themselves are generally very low. They use loopholes (intentional or unintentional by the government) to avoid the high income tax rates. Which is why I find the whole fantasy around raising income tax rates to tax the rich to be a smokescreen, and not very well researched. It'd hardly affect the super-rich. The top 1% will mostly be salaried people who can't use the loopholes.

Except that the wealthy don't pay that much taxes in the first place.

At least 'the rich guys' give themselves super high tax rates.

Edit:

For those who won't read the whole comment thread, the US has one of the highest top income tax rates in the OECD, one of the highest (or the highest?) corp tax rates in OECD, and arguably the lowest tax burden on poor/middle class in OECD: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_rates


This idea that the rich don't pay taxes is somewhat misleading. Yes, certain very very rich people have accountants and tax shelters, but this is not the norm. IIRC, the (income) tax burden is about 40%, this by the top 1%.

So a /few/ rich people /seem/ to not pay any taxes.


The top 10% of taxpayers pay 70% of the tax. That we do not tax the wealthy is simply false. Whether we should tax them more is a separate issue.

While most of what you said is spot on, people often misunderstand what constitutes the super rich group with big tax breaks. It's way less than one percent, because it's the big investment money that's getting out of so much taxation. People who earn high salaries are actually paying quite substantial taxes.

For some perspective, "the 1%" starts at about $350k annual salary (think middle-of-the-pack surgeon.) At that level, you're paying a lot of taxes.

There's an excellent recent Econtalk on taxation in the US.


There is a difference between wealth and income. The top income earners pay a majority of the income taxes. The lower income earners pay a much smaller part of the taxes.

A bunch of the super rich deal in wealth rather than income. Remember reading about tech execs with $1 annual paychecks? They earn their money differently and pay taxes differently.

I wish there was more online showing this in a simple form.


The top 1% of rich people pay 39% of income taxes.

Do rich pay taxes? Yes.


If you want to count the entire world for wealth then you need to count the entire world for taxes too. I strongly doubt that the super rich are paying the vast majority of taxes worldwide.

For US taxes, see: https://itep.org/wp-content/uploads/taxday2017.pdf

The rate is definitely lower for poorer people, but nearly as much as the standard punditry, focusing only in federal income tax, would have you believe.

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