This is very upsetting. The liberal party is giving me reasons to regret voting for them, but I suppose we'll see if they can pass it in a minority government. If the NDP also back it along with the conservatives, I may have no political alignment left.
As a Canadian it’s like living with a bunch of lunatics and I can not believe so many people are okay with this. All I can say is I will never miss an election again. We need Trudeau gone badly but he has a lot of support from the east and no other party is positioned to beat him in an election. The ndp have sided with him on so many things I can no longer vote for them and the choices are limited.
That's a good point but it's worth noting that the NDP is backing it, as well as some Liberal MPs. For non-Canadians, NDP is our "far left" party. I don't mean that in a pejorative sense, just that our Liberal party tends to be your "mainstream" moderates and we have a 3rd party for the less moderate left-leaning voters. That's what the NDP is. So if they're backing this then that can only mean that there is bi-partisan support for this.
Just like last time this was posted, I'm here to remind you that the Liberals are the only ones not supporting this bill. It was introduced and enthusiastically supported by the Conservatives. Your hatred has blinded you.
To be fair, I think a lot of Canadians would vote for a different party if the election were held anytime in the last few years, but this in democratic coalition the NDP entered into has delayed an election. Now I think both the Liberals and the NDP will get burned in the next election.
As much as it pains me to say, the liberals are in a relatively strong minority position right now. If there were a non-confidence vote, they would likely come back in a stronger position. The NDP is in about the same position they were before, but the conservatives are in a pretty bad spot. Their leader is stepping down, but no replacement has been chosen yet.
But it's push left leaning voters to NDP. This cuts into the Liberals base something fierce, so unless Trudeau is trying to split the conservative vote (which seems insane) then they've severely stumbled.
They said they'd back it with modifications, no modifications were made, and they voted Yes anyways. What message he was trying to send to voters backing down so easily?
Fact that whole of liberal caucuses and NDP voted for this aberration is bad news.
It is an open season on anyone who is member or supported People’s party. Totalitarians having tasted the pandemic power do not seem to want to relinquish it(surprise! lol)
I'm an immigrant and got really burned during the Harper admin (Kenny's handling of immigration destroyed my life). That basically meant my options are Liberal or NDP. NDP policies seem to think if I make more than 200K, I am a rich fat cat (ignore that I have a freakin PhD at the cost of a delay in buying a house - effectively making me far poorer in wealth terms than someone with a mediocre undergrad who bought a place anytime before 2015). Last election, I recall thinking, how can I vote NDP if them winning means I'll leave the country. That means, my only choice is Liberal. I am so fed up with their mismanagement, that I think I need to vote conservative just to make my voice heard, and then if (when?) the xenophobes of that party come out, go liberal again. I dunno .. feels like Canada isn't for people like me.
I'm ashamed of my province. I'm seriously considering moving south of the border if they don't start to get a little more liberal (not talking about the party here).
I may, but the Canadian political landscape right now is one where the ruling party has a majority so they can push through pretty much any bill they want. Also the party has pretty much discouraged MPs from expressing any opinions counter to the party line.
Even if Harper goes (and if he doesn't I call shenanigans) the bill has been passed. The damage has been done. If liberals win it is highly unlikely they would remove that bill, and if NDP wins still i doubt they will abolish the bill. At best you can hope for NDP to win and submit revisions to the bill for more oversight.
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