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You know, it serves them right. They’re a major part of the opaque, shitty “enterprise” software ecosystem that over-promises, under-delivers, and somehow manages to bag a fortune in the process. Looks like they’re eating their own dog food on this one.


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Can't help but to feel a tiny bit of schadenfreude since they locked themselves into proprietary platforms and now are desperately trying to claw themselves out of it into the warmth of open source.

SourceForge is to software as maggots are to meat. Don’t know how the people behind it have an ounce of self respect.

They're just a cursed company. Their culture is so disconnected from what users want that they're incapable of ever making a good product. Nothing will ever change within them, no matter how many times they remind us that they Love Open Source.

Exactly, they were doing fine until they made a point to shit on all open source software instead of limiting their focus to this one, Microsoft-sponsored outfit.

They’re the same asshats. With a thin layer of marketing veneer over the top, telemetry underneath all floating on a vat of poor testing, poor delivery and poor quality.

I had a defect open for 9 years on connect that affected 20,000 users. Couldn’t pay them to fix it even as a gold partner. Now they just abandon all their shit in GitHub instead and sell you a subscription to be served up ash and beer dregs while reminding you that they love Linux and open source while trying to get leverage and replace whole chunks of it with their bananas ecosystem.

Edit: must be lunch time at MSFT. Downvote flurry.


I think it shows that they’re aware their business model will fail soon to free and open source options, so they’re milking their remaining customers. Burning your users like this is a one way function

We gave these mofos an ecosytem because they were hiding behind the label of "free and open source software". Now they can screw anyone and not even answer to emails. They are nothing but crooks.

All software giants hold too much power in their hands and nobody can touch them. What can you do? They have at least 50% of the market.


They’ve joined RedHat in pouring a big bucket of sleazy business behavior onto the open source movement.

They're basically killing a company behind an open-source project.

Because they keep churning out garbage. And the only "good" stuff they do make, they don't open source, or even release it on multiple platforms.

Not to mention the fact that they are extremely user hostile. Putting ads in a paid for OS? And mining private data. If their OS was free I'd at least say they had an excuse to do that.


This is the most unbelievable and I heard it before: when an open source software starts including proprietary bloatware like that, one might think there is money involved...

Either it's: intentional, or they just don't give a damn.

Considering the sources of most of their revenues, I'd say #2 is most likely. Companies that have been in Enterprise that long, making hand-over-fist money from mediocre products, acquired IP, and vendor lock-in often have a "quaint rag-tag" view of the FOSS development community.

I tend to think it's a myopic viewpoint, but then again we are a tiny indie shop, and they are multi-billion dollar company.


It's probably why they have so much money. It only goes one way. They are greedy and unethical just as any other big co, what's worse about them however is that they are trying to wear that deceptive image of them being changed now and embracing open source blah blah, but it is the same greedy Micro$oft it has always been.

Yeah - damn these businesses for using open source rather than building common tools from scratch. Cleary they are just as bad as a company with about a trillion dollar market cap that deliberately cannibalizes fledgling companies once said companies have bled themselves dry exploring a new market.

When will the corporate shilling on HN end?


Allure of flushing down the toilet GPL software from their stack is just too high for them, to just walk away from it.

They're ruining their brand image. It's hard to be considered trustworthy when it appears like you compromise your values due to financial hardship. It reminds me of the Ubuntu Amazon integration thing as well. One of the Cardinal rules of free software seems to be don't sell your users by forcing 3rd party integration nobody asked for.

Couldnt have put it better myself. The sheer incompetence is staggering and frankly it's depressing that these giant corporations are so good at selling their steaming piles of shit to companies who should really know better.

If PAN-OS was open source then no one would want to be within 10,000 miles of it!


They are not that foolish. The only company that stupid was the one behind sourceforge.

Now they just have to feed it to the financially stressed open source developers they are harassing.
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