OP here. Not sure about other people posting it but it’s a pretty well known interview. What makes it propaganda? Do you have a better source for what the IC communities of other countries are doing to weaken our institutions than a defector from a rival country? What do you think our very own CIA does with the opaque budget we provide it with every year?
The same thing. They do the same thing. Don’t turn a blind eye to it.
Also the Assange case is near and dear to a lot of people. It’s evil what’s happening to him. And the only reason it continues to happen is because of the silent consent of people who really probably have no idea what our intelligence agencies are doing and because of the cultivated ineptitude at some of our important institutions.
It is unfortunate that so much effort in this thread is being put into suggesting that anyone who disagrees with Assange must be a tool of the government or Google. We must not allow ourselves to fall prey to the military intelligence complex and actually think critically.
But I suppose when you agree with the premise then it's not actually propaganda...
And you appear to be a (probably unwitting) agent of US propaganda.
Edit: I'm getting down voted to hell, so I'll clarify: the narrative that Assange is a Russian agent is absolutely US propaganda. The US government has been smearing Assange and Wikileaks for at least 8 years, and was even caught red-handed hiring Palantir and HBGary to enact a media and infiltration campaign to destroy Wikileaks:
That's just Government propaganda. The same bullshit type of propaganda that was used against Daniel Ellsberg and everyone else who exposed corruption in power.
Your comment is just muddying the waters with a strawman: "someone being a saint" to avoid the very true fact that Assange is persecuted and imprisoned for being adversarial to the government and exposing corruption. It's very simple.
As for influencing US elections, you should look into the CIA/FBI and your own corrupt political parties that censor left and right when truths that are inconvenient appear. Oh, who would've thought, exactly like in Assange's case.
The whole accusing someone of Russia is just so disingenuous and time and time again (russiagate, Hunter's laptop, etc) it's shown to be absolute bullshit, that is happily reproduced by the bought and paid for media, who has ex CIA people happily being panelists and commentators.
It's so ridiculous and your comment extremely low effort.
This really feels like CIA NSA propaganda. As if nothing wrong happened. What the hell.
The character assassination of Snowden&co in the anglophone sphere is absurd, and probably manufactured. But this didn't quite happen in other languages.
Assange trials are just mind-blowing and worrisome, and yet the simple truth is here: who told the truth is in jail, and who committed war crimes is outside.
It's okay when CIA convinces some non-US citizen to become an agent and provide secrets from their government. All governments do this. Somehow it's different in Assange's case because he is not government entity.
There is direct physical and historic evidence that intelligence work involves misrepresenting positions left and right while fabricating lies about political opponents.
Why are you that concerned about something getting misrepresented? Your position sound extremely dishonest, because misrepresentation is the primary tool of those that accuse Assange of crimes.
The poster claimed that Mr. Assange is something like a russian spy tool. The link you provided is to a pretty generic "channel" on a website pretty much discrediet by most posters in this thread.
There should be something more tangible, and credible, for such an accusation.
You clearly out yourself as a disinformation agent by attempting to steer the conversation into character assassination, knowing full well this not about Assange the man but the legality of investigative journalism as a check-and-balance on power.
It is not worth engaging. I have met powerful people who have an unreasonable bug up their ass about Assange.
These are Americans who state that this Australian is a traitor who should be prosecuted and executed for treason over the collateral murder video. It is the same exact moral and ethical rot that has corrupted our police forces.
The framing of Assange as an innocent “journalist” being persecuted for just doing his job is, in my opinion, disingenuous.
I do not necessarily agree with all the actions the US Government has taken with him, or their handling of some of the information that was leaked.
However, I do not agree that a “journalist” should be able to enable espionage, let alone encourage/incite it. In case my point is unclear, I consider setting up a website purely designed to encourage leaking of potentially classified information and assisting with the ability to do so as being no different than any other criminal conspiracy.
Further, I am of the opinion, being someone who was quite literally in Afghanistan when he leaked the information he did, that any probative value of the information Manning leaked was overshadowed by the indiscriminate way in which it was done.
Assange is an activist, not a journalist. He should not be treated as such and much of the consequences he suffers now (e.g., confinement during appeal) is directly related to his own actions (e.g., fleeing to an Embassy).
Regardless of how you feel about Assange, what's happening with him should send shivers down your spine. His attempted prosecution attacks source protection, a very important component of investigative journalism.
In America, it seems the breakdown is:
* Are you an individual? If yes, when you have biases, make mistakes, or commit crimes, you are a villain and are given no benefit of the doubt.
* Are you a corporation or company? If yes, it's just business.
NYTimes, WaPo, TheIntercept, ..., all published disinformation to support their singular echo chamber narrative this past election cycle. Pretending that folks like Assange are deeply problematic but avoiding that same look into MSM is fairly bizarre.
The thing is, though I'm not saying that's true in your case, that many people's perceptions of Assange are entirely due to the picture the media has painted rather than things he has himself said or done.
Check out the disinformation campaign that's been going on in Sweden for example, propagated by tabloid press in releases oddly synchronous with statements by the prime minister concerning an upcoming 'smear campaign against Sweden'.
Assange is a corrupt paid agent of Russian propaganda network. The fact that you are a fan casts more shadow over your own character than anything else.
The same thing. They do the same thing. Don’t turn a blind eye to it.
Also the Assange case is near and dear to a lot of people. It’s evil what’s happening to him. And the only reason it continues to happen is because of the silent consent of people who really probably have no idea what our intelligence agencies are doing and because of the cultivated ineptitude at some of our important institutions.
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