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At least rest of us can be less hypocritical, If we have decided to call out companies for their lackluster climate action then contributing to the e-waste disaster by selling blackboxes should be on the list.


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Actually, we should, when the energy spent improving the situation could be spent on things with magnitude more impact.

The whole phone e-waste discussion is virtue signaling in its worst form.


Another one PRO climate catastrophe!

Let's produce even more e-waste please. Let's do our best to end this quick, maybe in the next turn of the wheel we'll get better cards (or smarter humans that can live with a "dumb" house)


less e-waste. If you cared enough about our planet, you'll know that

If you care about the environment start somewhere other than e-waste.

Well yeah, since if the chip maker didn't come up with this product strategy the extra e-waste would be further limited.

I think we can probably all agree that corporations should have some responsibility in the ramifications of their products.


Consumers get to throw e waste in the bin and let somebody else deal with it. Governments need to look out for more interests than just consumers.

Because reducing e-waste is more important than individual preference.

I disagree. People/nations should clean up their own mess, without polluting the environment (of others) even further by shipping things back and forth.

My advice: keep your e-waste around as an investment. Once the mines have been depleted its worth will probably go up... On a more serious note: stop buying needless crap. Minimalism ftw.


Reducing e-waste is an important part of addressing climate change, which is the most important issue, so: Yes.

Because the opposite doesn't have unintended consequences ? Do you know what we do with e waste ? ship them to Africa/China for """recycling"""

But they're compensating for that added e-waste and environmental damage by not giving you a charger in the box for, you know, saving the planet and all that. /s

Yeah, then on top of plastic pollution we can have more e-waste.

I have a proposal: if the company sells some urepairable, unrecycleable and toxic piece of shit, then the customer/landfill/the government will post the e-waste to their head office and they are responsible for storing it untill the end of time.

That will get incentives in the right place.


They promote it as a sustainability initiative. Turning functional devices into e-waste is anything but that, and rightfully criticized and mocked.

Software companies must be a non-trivial driver of e-waste.

Right. I can't agree with you more about smothering the planet in mostly-unnecessary stuff. I'm truly fed up with the fact that almost every appliance or bit of gear we buy is designed with a short limited life and not meant to be serviced. No wonder the world is awash with e-waste and similar broken/junked stuff. Once, just about every bit of electronics I bought or owned I could fix, now I can't even open up gear without smashing my way inside because it's glued up or snapped shut with one-use-only one-way snap-lock catches, etc. It's a damn disgrace.

Two weeks ago the USB socket on my Netgear modem became intermittent and I literally had to smash my way through the plastic case to get inside to gain access to the circuit board. Unfortunately, in doing so I damaged something else which (I think) has rendered it useless (I'll know for sure when I get a chance to take a microscope to the PWA). The fact remains that I haven't been able change a 20 cent socket and to save time I've had to buy a new device!

It seems to me that green and ecological movements should do more in this area to stop the millions of tons of e-waste—and getting behind Right to Repair movements is a good place to start.


Why do so many people pretend to care about the environment but then let stuff like this mandatory unnecessary e-waste happen?

Should have done this at the start of this generation before people invested in hardware which is now e waste

It would be a far better use of everyone's time if instead of returning this to them or sending dead batteries back, we all put that energy into lobbying to permanently kill these types of industries.
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