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this is great!!

The final cashflow amount of the house graph (in the example) ends in the negative, s this accurate?



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In the official graph it actually goes negative.

Thanks. But doesn’t that chart show the exact opposite?

And even if its only the money flow graph...

It probably shouldn't, that's total real estate equity - not real estate equity per capita, and it doesn't look like it's even adjusted for inflation?

You can make any graph look scary if you try hard enough haha.


yep ... that's the graph you want to show investors haha

The graph is visually misleading because putting the top 5% on it (and then including a blank bar even on top of that) makes changes in all the other lines look smaller. The top three quintiles are all upward sloping prior to 2000, and since then the top 5% line is flat too, which is attributable to the recession(s) following the dotcom bust, 9/11 and the housing crisis.

And be careful with the debt numbers. The thing you really want there is net worth anyway. Otherwise you get silly outcomes like people buying homes causing "debt" to increase dramatically even though assets increase by an equivalent amount at the same time.


That's a rather weird graph - it doesn't show house price to income ratio at all, even though that's its title. It shows change in that ratio since 2010. Tells you essentially nothing about the actual house price to income ratio.

The excel graph will take into account those little things. As long as the direction continues downward, the daily numbers don't matter.

I'm not accusing you of anything, but that graph stops 3 years ago, and there have been some big changes since that time. [1]

[1] https://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2022/06/may-housing-start...


Nice graph! Thanks!

The chart said percentage of transactions

Data geek niggle - it's pretty deceptive to start the graph at $200 million instead of zero. It makes the drop in 2012 look larger than it really is. Granted, the effect isn't huge in this case, but its still very bad practice.

Can you describe how you reached your conclusion from the data in the spreadsheet? I don't see any of the three series correlating particularly strongly with house prices. My own pet theory is that adding the Fed's QE purchases to the graph would show stronger correlation than the series that are present.

Without much background in finance, I have a hard time knowing if these graphs are all meaningful, or if they're just cherry picked. Is there any way to tell?

Mike, thanks for the observation!

The chart is correct, but theoretically you could flip the axes and the shape of the chart would still be true.

Power Law Distributions in early stage investing a low frequency of high expected returns, and high frequency of low expected returns.


Eh, since COVID, graphs that are going down are interpreted as positive.

Liquidity preference is captured in the graph. That's the first dotted line as well as the flat section in the middle.

If the x-axis is 'forward progress', then there is no issue (except that strict "negative progress" may not be defineable).

All those graphs should start the y-axis with 0%, starting at 5% or 10% makes the decline/increase seem bigger than it really is.
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