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I think there is some value in retaining the fact that this requirement is being enacted via an emergency order though.


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I somehow missed this. That is disappointing.

There may be reasons to doubt the constitutional legitimacy of that law were it not constrained to emergency situations.


That is a misinterpretation of my comment. To reframe it using your language "It doesn't work now and is actively hurting us during times of emergency, so does removing this requirement make it worse?" No one here has yet to put together a convincing argument on the real world ramifications of debate on the Senate floor. I am open to changing my position on this, but I need to hear a stronger argument than someone proving Godwin's law.

Which is meaningless considering the chart allows for almost everything inside of it to be either suspended (as per section 1) or outright ignored even outside of an emergency (not-withstanding clause). So yes it's not reassuring for an emergency law to have to follow the charter that explicitly allows for almost anything in cases where it's needed (such as government declared emergencies...).

The joys of having a "living constitution" where nothing is really set in stone and almost every right in the charter of rights can be just essentially ignored because of the very first section of said charter.


And "arbitrary" is one limitation to emergency powers.

Subjecting a targeted group to repeated fear and uncertainty through changing rules seems to be more of the plan than an absurdity. A rule like this establishes precedent, even.

You put up this headline without any of the other political context and I am right there with you. But there is no shortage of context.


I would not imagine even the legal requirement would reduce the safeguarding requirements nor allow an increase to the necessary retention period.

Yeah as bad as this sounds it's basically just reiterating the existing law.

They are just saying they aren't making a unique exception for this one case that wouldn't normally exist otherwise.


There argument would be more convincing if they linked to the actual requirements and not paranoid fear mongering sound bites. I think they need to work though this first before they just ignore the law.

It's possible this is for legislative reasons rather than anything else.

Wow that is a really stupid rule I wonder what they are trying to accomplish with that. More unnecessary government crap.

A mandate which allows temporary exceptions is still a mandate.

The authority cannot be exercised arbitrarily. The authority is for a specific emergency health purpose, therefore these (otherwise illegal) restrictions which are being imposed under that specific authority must be justified.

i don't put much stock in a comment that dismisses the article out of hand on an arbitrary requirement. ironic.

Yea great point. A lot of headlines are portraying this as a sudden new practice rather than an attempt to formalize the rules governing existing practices.

It seems like they must be, as that'd be the obvious solution. I wonder what the motivation for that rule is, and how soon it'll change.

While I agree, I marked the emergency vehicles as being in violation of the rule. My interpretation being that such a rule would not be enforced even though it was technically violated.

The article gives 3 reasons for the notice requirement right below that quote. Which ones do you disagree with?

> which is reflected in the MHRA’s emergency approval protocol

Makes me think this is an acknowledged limitation and a closer metaphor would be removing some use cases and cutting scope.

I'm not sure I follow why this is news and a changed in protocol if it was known since the approval


If it's only going to be conveniently enforced, it does raise the question of whose convenience is prioritized and why.
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