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> the terrible activism and bullying associated with it.

Could you please elaborate on that, or give some examples? I never heard of Guile besides it's used in Guix, so I'm an ignorant of the subject.



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> group bullying

oh, you mean capitalism?


> a lot like school administrators and teachers rely on bullies

man what? citation needed.


> Why do you want to bully people?

Is there a name for the mental situation where we make fun of someone because he dares doing something that we know we wouldn't dare to do?

I think that's what OP is experiencing when wanting to give name to someone wearing the device.


> The term "bully" is not helpful in the first place. It's too vague. It used to refer to kids who beat up other kids in school. That's a specific behavior. Modern usage had deteriorated into meaninglessness. It's kinds of ridiculous that the terms is used to refer to adults.

A cursory look at the Wikipedia etymology contradicts the notion that it was ever limited to children, or that the current usage is significantly broader than it has been in the past. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullying#Etymology


Most if not all responses here appear to target Matthias, however, it seems to me that author is also blaming Racket community for witnessing first hand the bullying and doing nothing. Tolerating Matthias alleged behavior is in a way condoning his abusive streak.

> bullying an employee of Twitter

Bully a disabled employee about their disability being a sign of weak character.


> Today it's all bullying and people are going insane over trolling but back then it was just part of the game.

To be fair people were anonymous back then so trolling/bullying was easier to brush off.


> I have a feeling that bullying harms more than just the victims, it also harms the perpetrators...

Most likely, they have already been harmed when they start bullying.


I'd use the term "bullying" in this respect.

>encouraged the bullies to physically torment the parents of the victims

Can you cite this? Never heard of that.


Translation: joke -> threat.

Sounds like bullying to me. No place for that. No exceptions.


> The constant assertion that it does is bullying - an attempt to impose your morals on everybody else.

I think you really got something backwards here if you think that oppressed minorities are the ones doing the bullying here.


with class or out of fear because of the insane bullying that went on in https://github.com/joyent/libuv/pull/1015 ?

> It is nonviolent pressure

Violence isn't restricted to physical harm, though. Bullying people is a violent process.


>But what if bullying is just fun for some people?

We have a word for those people: "sociopath"


  >Anyone here who was bullied in high school, say, and enjoyed it? I sure didn't...
And therein lies the rub.

People like you, who couldn't find a coping mechanism to deal with childhood bullying [all children are vicious wee thugs, until they learn otherwise] think that you can somehow control what people "feel inside" by controlling what words they can use to express themselves. Ditto the people who think you can somehow stop anyone having racist or homopobic attitudes by banning completely innocuous words [see Montenegro comment above] as people might see them as racist or hompophobic.

Kids will always bully other kids, racists will always hate other races and homophobic people will always hate gays. If you ban one word, they'll come up with another. If you ban that, they'll come up with another... rinse and repeat. As I've said before, if you follow that path to its conclusion, you end up with Newspeak [0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak


> Those kind of personalities need to be punished early and decisively otherwise everything rots.

Yes, but unfortunately that’s illegal here in Sweden, leaving bullies with the upper hand.


This is a seriously fucked up thing to say. Christ, do you even realize what you're saying?

You're advocating for bullying people just because they were involved in writing a piece of software.

Seek help.


> Also, the problem with bullying isn't bullying itself but that people are receptive to it and don't defend themselves (partly because school rules prohibit defense).

Agree. The worst things people do are to themselves. If you're trapped in an abusive situation, it'll fuck you up. But if you're receptive to that kind of abuse and stop seeing it as an inherent wrong, this is where people go from being abused to abusing themselves.

This is the difference between someone getting bullied vs someone becoming an emotionally scarred shell of a person

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