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geoffjentry · 2021-08-23 09:26:44

They usually last years as it takes that long to get enough participants to have enough power. There were so many participants, that wasn't necessary here.

KitemanSA | karma 6 | avg karma 0.25 · | 2012-12-22 08:25:35

Oops, make that for two full power years over a period of five years. It was after all an experiment.

fleitz | karma 12602 | avg karma 3.0 · | 2014-08-20 22:44:33

From what I understand going from 2008-10 and talking to the more experienced that it was mostly over by about '95-'97 after someone died and they had to make a bunch of rules.

dspillett | karma 12622 | avg karma 2.43 · | 2018-05-24 10:33:56

> effectively years

Not quite. LITERALLY years. Two of them. A bit more if they were keeping an eye on the matter while the regulation was being drafted (though I doubt very many were, I know I wasn't).

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rachelbythebay | karma 3881 | avg karma 4.25 · | 2012-06-19 18:02:23

One committee, ten years. One jwz, three days.

This is the stuff "10X" is made of.

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BiteCode_dev | karma 23110 | avg karma 4.85 · | 2021-05-14 12:50:20+00:00

25 years is pretty long in IT history.

I'd say it lasted.

But well, everything is political nowaday, and people apparently can't get political without creating drama. See: the last basecamp outrage.

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mirceagoia | karma 1994 | avg karma 7.3 · | 2013-03-14 15:20:29

Many more years from now on! They accomplished a lot with a limited budget.

pjmlp | karma 109153 | avg karma 1.76 · | 2017-02-27 20:42:56+00:00

And in many cases it doesn't matter, those 2x, 4x longer are still in the accepted expectation time frame.

fragmede | karma 18795 | avg karma 1.82 · | 2023-11-19 14:34:34

At best a year? That's plenty of time!

watwut | karma 13879 | avg karma 1.1 · | 2023-12-25 02:20:24

Sure longer then 4 years ans still shorter in total and still the whole higher part of it is on point rather then random.

They don't have 7 years long programs.

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eru | karma 30335 | avg karma 1.29 · | 2011-01-19 17:07:30

But a year is not that long, either.

crtasm | karma 2308 | avg karma 1.39 · | 2021-11-09 09:52:12

and it was only worked out around 2010 I think? sign of a well manipulated sample when it takes so long!

Apocryphon | karma 19248 | avg karma 1.97 · | 2019-04-25 16:37:53+00:00

It lasted for about eleven years which is not bad as far as frameworks go.

p_l | karma 8319 | avg karma 1.99 · | 2020-07-08 11:43:56

There was 20 years of that. 20 YEARS

Actually more than that, but I'm just using one of the shorter timelines involved.

So if the rather hands-off approach didn't work, campaigns didn't work, capitalism didn't work because it was always on the side of violating privacy? Well there comes the hammer.

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drewm1980 | karma 487 | avg karma 1.55 · | 2017-08-08 05:30:58

That is not a long time for something like this.

drewm1980 | karma 487 | avg karma 1.55 · | 2017-08-08 05:31:00

That is not a long time for something like this.

pm90 | karma 12562 | avg karma 2.33 · | 2022-12-28 15:25:47

I found this a bit strange as well. A year seems a bit excessive. The most I've seen is 4 months, with an average of much less than that.

ashelmire | karma 1979 | avg karma 3.37 · | 2018-03-22 19:28:02+00:00

Only took them 10 years?

jasonvorhe | karma 1430 | avg karma 1.96 · | 2020-10-17 12:23:07

10 years is a pretty good life time and since they're not shutting down anything, this seems reasonable.

insanitybit | karma 4243 | avg karma 2.69 · | 2023-06-22 20:52:03

Idk if I'd call 2 years "many", but yes.