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That doesn't make one jot of sense.

By complying with the request they immediately violated the safe harbor provision.



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I expect it's true that they lose safe harbor, but I couldn't find anything saying that. Are you just guessing?

Well, they're now getting sued. The other option would have been to apply for a permit, get denied a permit, go to court. They chose not to but rather offer their service despite it being clearly in violation of the law. I feel no pity for them.

They have to comply with the new laws -- it's not betrayal when they don't have a choice in the matter.

Not complying means they would face severe enough penalties to sink the business (notwithstanding the risk of jail-time.)


This did apply, otherwise they would have been immediately liable. They only faced liability for not complying with an injunction. The relevant law is §7 paragraph 3 and 4.

Sounds like they were authorized and the court administration just made a mistake in the contract.

They would get raided by the government and forced to comply. They literally can't refuse in this case. They could have fought it in court (and lost) but at the end they would have to produce the documents under threat of contempt and then criminal charges.

Good, how on earth did their legal team think this was OK?

Their founder mentioned elsewhere in this thread that they are working with the state to get into compliance as soon as they got this notice. Looks like they weren't even trying to skirt the law, they just got bad advice.

If they had noted a legal enforcement, it would have sounded like threatening. They did the right thing and just noted the problem for now. Maybe the other party will fix the infringement and close the issue.

It's an administrative complaint with the Department of Homeland Security, not a legal case. Not sure if this is an area where there is an administrative remedy that needs to be exhausted before filing a lawsuit, or if there is some other reason for the decision to take this approach.

Well it is exposing them to significant legal risk if they no longer comply, isn't it?

Considering that they are violating a court order in continuing to enforce parts of the order, I wouldn't be at all surprised if they are also neglecting to fill out the proper paperwork.

That does seem to me like a fairly obvious case of evil to me.

I guess the reason is that they probably could have sued for malicious prosecution and asked the court to expunge it without signing a waiver, but it was easier to just sign.


I mean, they apparently have a clause trying to entirely deny liability. That's not really a reasonable spot.

They shouldn't have taken legal obligations to do otherwise, i.e. they shouldn't have sold the ticket and shouldn't have applied for liquor permit.

"Yes, we took your cash in return for promise of delivering goods and services, but our policy forbids us from delivering" sounds more like Rule of Acquisition.


Answered elsewhere in thread: Their legal counsel said they didn't need to. The lawyer was wrong, and they now have new legal counsel. Seems like a legit oops which they're since fixed.

I think most likely is a consent decree that says they're not allowed to engage in this behavior, and the gov has the right to inspect their operations to ensure compliance. That along with a token fine.

They were given an order they couldn't achieve compliance for, which fined them 1mil per infraction against rules that were too broad to implement.

I fail to see a response other than - stay operating against the order of the court, or close until they can be in compliance with the court.


Court order?

Your argument might make sense if it was law enforcement making the request. But do you really think companies should ignore court orders?

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