People pretend not to be white all the time to garner advantage in white supremacists societies… right? I’m sure it happened all the time in the Jim Crow south.
ETA: I don’t think we live in a white-supremacist or anti-white culture. I think people talk about these things in absurdly reductionist ways and am poking fun at that.
The entire EXPLICITLY STATED point of these /pol/ campaigns is to manipulate the media into acting as an engine of radicalization.
“It’s okay to be white” would have died on the vine right next to “Islam is right about women” if the media didn’t go into an amplification feeding frenzy.
Edit: and sure, the cat’s out of the bag and actual racists are probably using the phrase now. But clearly no lesson has been learned - ditching Scott Adams for supposedly making reprehensible racist remarks is going to absolutely set more than a few people down the path of radicalization when they look up what he said and see “it’s okay to be white”. I can only imagine the glee over on 4chan right now.
I'll disagree until the OP claims sarcasm. The comment easily reads as white grievance about how our society is "obviously not white supremacist" because "why would people lie about being white in a white supremacist country"? To which I replied the obvious answer to such a dumb conjecture. Unfortunately the title has drawn in many comments exactly like this, its sad people can't think 2 inches from their face. I'll take the downvotes from cranky white people with pride.
So you agree that the person you had previously said is just innocuously defending "it's ok to be white" is actually a white supremacist or a troll pretending to be one?
You keep pretending like there's these innocent victims, and it turns out these people where actually what we had said they were all along.
"That's closer to the camp of "white supremacist" or at the very least, a common defense used by white supremacist."
This kind of gaslighthing though.
"My opponent disagrees with me and is therefore a White Supremacist, or at least close to one!"
If one person says 'this org is racist because of white privilege' - it's possibly contentious, but not unreasonable to suggest that this statement is racist in and of itself.
Just because you might deny 'reverse racism' exists, doesn't mean that it's true, it's a denial, not a disagreement.
Also, indicating that 'this office is not a place of white supremacy' is not 'denying' someone else experience, or their position that 'racism exists'. It's an observation of the nature of the ostensible problem.
It's not 'wilfully ignorant' it's more like 'wilfully insensitive / disagreeable / inflammatory'
It's odd how many people who share this anti-Whitism express this sentiment in the very same breath in which they denigrate, demonise or humiliate Whites.
Either they don't actually believe it and are just zealously taking the opportunity to revel in their socially-acceptable racism, or they're supporting this trend I'm seeing of Whites becoming ethnically conscious and collectivising in the face of the hostility they are being exposed to.
It's probably the former, but the latter is the effect regardless.
> Not content to limit speech, the program also informed resident assistants that “all whites are racists” and that it was the university’s job to heal them
But it doesn't terrify me for the reason it would terrify most people. Me, I'm pretty international, from what I know of genetics I'd actually prefer to have mixed blood and bi-cultural children.
So why am I terrified? Because this kind of nonsense is really the only way that a vicious white nationalism could make a comeback. It's been thoroughly beaten down, but you could generate a hell of a backlash if you kept up with this kind of "all whites are racist" (direct quote!) type stuff.
Really, I think we need to put all forms of nationalism down. White nationalism, yes, but also various fanatical patriotism, religious nationalism, and other forms of racial nationalism - including amongst minorities. This isn't a popular opinion right now, but I think encouraging people to make their skin color part of their identity is likely to lead to adversarial relations.
I understand the historical reasons and practical considerations on why it can be beneficial. But at some point you've got to take the high road and stop playing that card, lest you risk resurrecting white nationalism, which certainly wouldn't be a good thing.
At the very very least, cut out the "white people are the enemy" thing - the vast majority of educated whites in Western democracies are very open minded, accommodating, and even go a little out of their way to look out for people from tougher backgrounds. The only thing that could be done to screw that up is repeatedly ostracize them... which is exactly the strategy some people are taking. Seems like a very bad idea to me, on pretty much all levels.
What you’ve posted here and what I’ve said are mutually exclusive. It’s entirely coherent for white supremacists to believe that it’s only okay to be white, and for them to troll people with the phrase “it’s okay to be white”. That’s what makes it a troll. They get people who aren’t savvy to spread their message, while making people who are savvy sound unreasonable. Then they sit back and watch how many people defend them (you) and how many people get angry (me) and feel like they’ve won either way.
But to be clear, the only way to win against a white supremacist is to push back. Scott Adams isn’t winning today. Watching the general response in news and media, it seems most people see right through this little troll stunt, because most people know it’s okay to be white, so the nature of the question is just a huge red flag. Except Scott Adams and the credulous posters here.
In the end though, you’re the one downplaying white supremacists as mere trolls, while casting me as looking like a racist for calling them out on their shit. So really I’m wondering why you’re trying very hard to convince hard that white supremacists are just trolls and don’t actually believe the white race is supreme over all others.
White supremacists don't necessarily believe that whiteness is inherently superior to blackness (the existence of black scholars and white numbskulls proves this).
They also believe that their culture is superior to black culture.
Wow. Just because I believe that the government is an immoral actor or believe in 'conspiracy theories' like 9-11 being an inside job does not make me a white supremacist. Actually this type of belief system is just as common, probably more common actually, among non-whites.
For those of us who study culture, this is absolutely a thing. Its called pseudoarchaeology and it has always been very popular with White Supremacists.
I don't think that what I wrote was off-topic, because poking fun of Southern White society was a major theme throughout the entire article, not just the part I quoted directly.
And my subsequent posts clarified my viewpoint, and weren't written in inflammatory language. It's not my fault that some people immediately associate the use of the term "White" with a crazy Stormfront posting neo-Nazi. How else am I supposed to refer to the subject matter? Using White in a negative context seems to be fine.
If a lot of people think that using terms like "White culture" makes you a neo-Nazi, then that precisely confirms that the viewpoint I was parodying in my first post is alive and well.
ETA: I don’t think we live in a white-supremacist or anti-white culture. I think people talk about these things in absurdly reductionist ways and am poking fun at that.
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