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Too bad that nobody ever managed to find any of those tiny super spy chips, even three years later.

But hey: The poop was thrown, some of it stuck, and now you are repeating it as established fact, when even the sources named in the Bloomberg piece found it quite lacking after publication [0]

So the narrative successfully did it's FUD job, and here we are under a post about yet another Bloomberg headline that nobody even questions in the slightest.

[0] https://9to5mac.com/2018/10/09/bloomberg/



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> Bloomberg provides zero evidence this happaned, outside of their anonymous sources.

Bloomberg probably ran this hoping that now that people are looking, some folks outside the circle of anonymous sources will find the chip so that they don't risk exposing their sources.


My trust of bloomberg has been pretty low since the spy chip story, that seems to have been just a hoax. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-h...

Bloomberg still has not retracted their spy chip story (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-h...).

Until then, I would take anything you read in Bloomberg w/ a grain of salt.


Obligatory disclaimer that Bloomberg ran an unproven and debunked chip story, and never retracted it.

Bloomberg had that invisible spy chip story.

That story and the followups have always been and remain extremely suspect. https://www.google.com/search?q=bloomberg+supermicro+story

Too many Bloomberg articles make it to the front page of Hacker News and that is unfortunate because Bloomberg is corporate media at its most diabolical. Bloomberg has a long history of publishing articles to earn moral credit and then cashing out on that credit from time to time with articles that clearly favor a small group of special corporate interests. Today, the story is that generics are harmful and cause cancer -- we better pay 20x for those name brands. Before, there were unsubstantiated claims about microprocessors used by Apple that were spiked with surveillance hardware: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-h...

Don't be a Bloomberg shill. Ask yourself when you see an article published by Bloomberg who they are really serving with these stories.

This comment was downvoted in about 5 seconds from when it was published. This was a comment at the bottom of a comment thread. There is no way for that to have happened other than by a bot. Bloomberg uses third party-controlled bots on HN to control the discussion. Sad.


What ever happened to the Super Micro story that was denied by all relevant parties as well as uncorroborated by any actual proof? Certainly Bloomberg would never publish stories supported by questionable evidence would they? Considering that Bloomberg has the ability to move the market, such conspiratorial thinking isn’t completely without some merit. I am not saying this particular story is suspicious, but after Super Micro, Bloomberg has earned some doubt.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/10/22/super_micro_chinese...


Didn't Bloomberg ruin their tech reputation with the still-unproven (years later) and probably baseless claims of nano chips planted in the supply chain of Supermicro ?

Wow, first the embarrassment around that secret chips planted in our data-centers story and now this. It's going to be a long time before I take Bloomberg's tech industry coverage seriously again.

Hey, did Bloomberg ever retract its entirely unverified Chinese spy chip story?

Just a reminder that they’ve blown all their credibility.


This is Bloomberg, the same news site that made outrageous and still-unsubstantiated claims about hardware backdoors in Supermicro's motherboards. Sadly this kind of media drives profits and with no repercussions has become par for the course with companies like Bloomberg.

Lets not forget that Bloomberg was also the publication that ran with and defended that whole 'Supermicro is totally getting spy hardware added to their motherboards by the Chinese government even though no one can seem to locate it' story. Something's... possibly askew with them of late.

Is Bloomberg trying to sound absurdly stupid to cover up their previous really stupid story on Chinese spy chip?

Given the scarce technical details provided by Bloomberg and demonstrated Bloomberg reporter’s lack of understanding on how hardware works, it’s entirely possible someone fooled Bloomberg. Bloomberg said it has 17 sources, but perhaps one source intentionally gave a false story, another described an unrelated attack, and the third merely commented on the technical possibility of a chip hack instead of its existence. Without much technical expertise, the Bloomberg reporter could not determine which of the sources are credible and relevant, but he surely knew which buzzwords are good for a story. So he created a sensational narrative that could attract as much attention as possible, based on selected information that helps the narrative.

This is from Bloomberg Businessweek? They still haven't retracted the sensationalist story about SuperMicro and Amazon and secret Chinese spy chips, right?

Take these claims with a huge grain of salt.


Bloomberg?

You mean "The Big Hack" Bloomberg?

You mean the outlet that announced bombastically that Apple devices had spy chips in them? And then when basically everyone involved said "no that's bullshit", and Apple devices were disassembled and very experienced people looked exactly where Bloomberg said the chips were, and there were no chips, Bloomberg said nothing? And has still posted no retraction, no updates, and no apologies for this blatant pack of lies?


Don't trust anything Bloomberg says. They have zero credibility. For example, they stated many times that all major companies like Google, Amazon and Apple have hardware from SuperMicro Inc., that contains hidden microchips and can spy on the companies by sending data to China... It was proven later that this was fake news.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermicro#Allegations_of_comp...


> I'm also reminded of that fake story from the WSJ about American chips being hacked that turned out to be entirely fabricated.

Bloomberg, not WSJ.

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