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You mean a good one in regard to the business, right? Because that seems to have very little to do with producing a good AV product.


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It will sell well to companies with a lot of money by telling them what they want to hear, rather than what they need to hear. It depends on your definition of a 'good product.'

It actually is entirely about building a good product if by good product you mean something people want.

Is it good enough to have a good product ?

The technology doesn't matter. Customers don't care. Developing a good product matters.

Is the product good, or bad?


Yes, a product can be bad and a commercial success.

Good as in pleasant, or good as in effective at launching great products?

True, but that often depends on your definition of "good". A barely adequate but very inexpensive product can be "good" for its intended market.

Product needs to be good enough to provide value/solve the customer's problems. Other products may be objectively "better" on some measures, but those measures may not be relevant for all users.

You're saying there's no such thing as an objectively good product, simply because people disagree on the matter of which products are good and which are bad. But disagreement isn't any sign that there's no fact to the matter--people disagree about matters of fact all the time.

A good product might not be sufficient or necessary to make a good stock, but it seems like a major influence--and I would be very reluctant to invest in a company which pathologically produces poor products (GM, Microsoft, Dell, HP). Of course there are other factors to consider, and investing in individual stocks is a fool's errand anyway.


yep, if you want your product to succeed, it has to be a really good product... why do people think this article is so great? isn't what altman says common sense?

Maybe just having one good product is okay.

It's a good question, and I'm not sure we have a good answer. We did show that we had built a product that people want, use and even love, but I don't we think did a good job of showing that we were building a $10B business.

"The problem is a better product is not necessarily a good business"

Hear, hear. This gets lost oftentimes when you hear the whole "build something people want" mantra.


If you succeed with a mediocre product, maybe it wasn’t a mediocre product.

But yes, I agree with your point.


Product, product, product, product, product.

But with people with a track record of actually knowing and having done good products.


Having a good product is a marketer's tool from that point of view.

For example? Note that it has to have equal or better marketing potential.

It's hard for any product to sell itself, especially in a crowded Market. I believe good product is easier to sell.

Yup, that's what I said in another comment. Sadly no one else here seems to care about product but only about revenue, however it is achieved.
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