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I would add for practical skills (including some research!) videos and podcasts seem to offer more feedback. Nobody in a book ever tells me what a flange or spline or baulk ring actually is, nobody in a video does either, but in the latter I get to see it and make my own, usually fit-for-current-purpose, inferences.

Closer personal example: I spent weeks trying to bully a supervised machine learning approach into a reinforcement learning one, because the 800-page reference book I used (that claims to cover all machine learning, and is well regarded!) in no way acknowledges the existence of this sub field. For whatever reason, and across multiple fields, I've never found static text to be good at "here's what you should be looking for", and I don't think it's reasonable to discount that knowledge as being valuable.



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If anything, a good book (or video course) will be a high-density, concentrated pill of everything you need to know about the subject to know what everything is and how it interacts. By comparison, reading blog posts and random YouTube videos is more akin to "grazing" - sure you can learn, but not as fast and you'll be missing context until the lightbulb goes off.

This seems to be a trend in general. Books or instructional videos are usually either made for people who are assumed to know basically nothing, or people who can be assumed to already know everything. I find it makes self guided learning very difficult in almost any field

Yeah, I think that if I were trying to learn a new skill, exercises/books are definitely better.

I'm usually listening to things while cleaning, driving, etc, for entertainment rather than maximizing learning. My experience has been that if someone introduces a really novel concept or historical fact in a talk, it will sink in and stick with me for a long time.

I've found a lot of fantastic material in this university's lectures- http://www.gresham.ac.uk/

I'm working on a search engine to curate a wider range of these, although it's still very much a work in progress-

https://www.findlectures.com/


I'm not sure about that. The topics I want to dig into I usually find it's harder to get the level of depth I want on a topic in book form than I do than to find videos on YouTube.

Some random examples:

- I'm interested in turbine engines, AgentJayZ has a while host of videos taking real turbine engines apart, talking about obscure features like compressor variable valve vanes etc.

- Plumbing, almost everything I've ever needed to know about plumbing has been available from PlumberParts / dereton33.

- Woodworking, I basically learned everything I know from watching people like Matthias Wandel.

- Recently I've been digging to electronics, I have an excellent book "Practical Electronics for Inventors" but every now and again I need to hear a different take on the same things and invariably there is a good video or article which clears it up for me.

What's more, to get the level of detail these guys show for free in book form would mean investing in some seriously expensive books, most of which hide the interesting parts under a lot of uninteresting maths.


I think what they are getting at is if you want to actually learn some deep fundamental knowledge on a topic, its still going to be best found in a book today over a youtube video or a medium post. I agree with this. There is a lot of noise on the internet, and all of it is optimized for short form consumption that leaves out a lot of detail. Relevant blog posts you struggle to find due to SEO spam can't compare to a couple hundred page encyclopediac handbook on a given topic. If you want to change your oil maybe you can get by with a youtube video, but if you want to one day cultivate actual expertise you better buy that haynes manual that covers every little system in your car in one place you can easily reference that isn't prone to link rot. You are right that its hard to get good books for certain communities, but the internet comes in handy here, and plenty of good books are available freely online through means of varying legitimacy. If you want to really get a handle on physics, maybe finding a PDF of a good textbook in addition to those youtube videos would go further.

Online resources are often shallow in content. I prefer to deep dive into a topic and truly learn it inside and out by reading a good book. Blogs and tutorials don't give you that deep insight.

I have tried fixing the brake cable on my bike (and other bike repair tasks), by using the myriad of youtube videos assigned for the task. It's actually quite difficult to hold a brake cable in tension, while forcing an old school front derailleur not meant for the bike into millimeter perfect position and at the same time pause/unpause/rewind a youtube video.

It is honestly easier to put a book down open to the right page, in line of sight. It requires no interaction and book authors are forced to write instructions that can be understood primarily without pictures, so there's no pause/unpause/rewind mentality. Books engage the mental tools to infer what happens next from textual description, an ability videos degrade in the viewer. The implications of that effects decision making subtly.

Books are also a welcome release from the trance-like state induced in consumers by most electronic displays.

I agree most books are garbage (like most of everything), the filtering of low quality books has failed. In my limited understanding most of the great literature was written between the 1700s and 1900s anyway. Recent literature does not grant the broad understanding and height over the subject matter.

It is somewhat problematic to rely on multiple youtube videos and find they all have 'small detail' gaps in their perfomances that exist because the video format is to train the user along a generic path of action. Those cracks often reveal a chasm of difference in understanding and in the end, the video is replacing turn-key parts and I'm angle grinding off a stuck cup and cone bearing, even though on the surface the problems look identical.


Books provide the basics required to understand the field. They don't help develop intuition, methodology, collaboration, and other skills necessary to truly understand the field or teach it to others.

> it's unhelpful to throw book titles at a person without any context or guidance

Here's one reason it's unhelpful; After 4 or 5 people list a bunch of books, you now have a long list of books, and no way to know which to start with, unless there is a lot of overlap - you could just as well google/search amazon and look at ratings, which would give you far better results.

Furthermore, many people tend not to read multiple math books on the same subject, so they just recommend what they know w/o having any knowledge of how that book fares against other suggestions.

If they expand on either their own credentials, and reading on the matter, so you have the context of their knowledge; or give reasons why that book is good, this gives a better basis for comparison.

As an aside; I like the coursera structure of following video lectures with content summaries of what was covered in the video. The advantage is 1) quick reference of material without having to search through a video; 2) if you already understand the topic, you can often just read the summary, and skip the video if you think you already know the material.

Another aside; one problem with books versus videos is often books are long compendia of a field, where as videos are shorter. if you already know topic A and want to learn B, then there may already be a video on topic B, where as a book might cover B in some chapter. For these cases, it might be good to discuss individual chapters/sections of book, but that assumes you can ready them somewhat independently given prior knowledge.


I agree with the basic thrust of your comment, which as I interpret it boils down to saying it's unhelpful to throw book titles at a person without any context or guidance. However, I disagree with this point:

> If some 2-minute video gives you something actionable to do rather than going through a 2-hour chapter in textbook there is no point of going through 2-hour chapter. Knowledge is all about applying not learning the facts and saying it around to your friends I know it feels good but nothing comes out of it in real life.

There are optimal and suboptimal ways to learn things, sure. But some things legitimately cannot be reduced from a complicated textbook chapter to a straightforward YouTube video. You can improve exposition, but that comes with its own time efficiency trade-offs, and you won't meaningfully simplify the material without compromising significantly in depth of coverage. In particular, even extremely good video series like 3Blue1Brown's Linear Algebra have neither the breadth nor the depth to replace the material in any given chapter of e.g. Axler's Linear Algebra Done Right. The exposition is certainly clear, and you can get a nice overview, but you're actually not learning enough to apply the mathematics if you watch a video on it. Ironically, such a video is much more likely to leave someone able to talk about the subject but woefully incapable of actually doing it. The videos that can be used for learning are mostly lectures.

More importantly I think your conception of working through a chapter is incorrect. If you're spending a significant amount of time working through a textbook chapter, you're either 1) actively learning the material and doing the mathematics, not just passively reading it, or 2) you're not prepared for the material, and you're not learning efficiently. Finding a video to simplify the material doesn't resolve #2, it just disguises it. When you learn mathematics from a textbook, you should be applying the material by working through the exercises. You can't immediately jump into e.g. data analysis after learning linear algebra, and you certainly can't do so by watching a video on the subject.

I'm fully with you that replying to these questions with textbook recommendations is unhelpful, but not because they're textbooks. Textbooks are great! The hard reality is that you can't simplify most mathematics into an easily, quickly digested format, especially if you want to apply it. There are simply too many prerequisites for most material and too many unknown unknowns that can leave glaring blind spots. "There is no royal road to geometry" is a saying for precisely this reason.


It's at least different to mine. I generally learn much better from reading than watching a video, instructor, etc. I also generally learn better through broader reading than doing exercises and such

I find that articles and blogs are good for questions, books are good for answers - or at least an attempt at that answer.

Sometimes you'll find an article that is as good as a book but other times I read a book proceeding an article and then wish the author would have started by reading some books themselves.

I find other long form content like podcasts or filmed presentations can sometimes hit that quality mark of books too.

Articles / tweets are good for learning the name of a concept I've never heard of.

Books / podcasts / YouTube are a good way to deep dive on the actual concept itself.


Undergraduate here, and I tend to agree. I used to learn a lot of material online using all the sites, blog posts, videos, visualizations, etc I could find... But as time has gone on Ive realized that most flashy materials, are less helpful that just spending some time with a single good book on a topic.

Maybe I am being snarky, but saying “I don’t like that” or “that’s not how I did it” just isn’t that interesting. I’d love to hear why books are so much effective, for instance, or which books, or what YT channels were useful.

for me books aren't primary source of learning. I just want them, read them whenever confused and my materials I'm following aren't answering my questions or clearing me about concepts. I primarily use videos and blogs.

There are, but it used to take actual time and effort to produce a book (good or bad), meaning that the small pool of experts in the world could help distinguish good from bad.

Now that it’s possible to produce mediocrity at scale, that process breaks down. How is a beginner supposed to know whether the tutorial they’re reading is a legitimate tutorial that uses best practices, or an AI-generated tutorial that mashes together various bits of advice from whatever’s on the internet?


I have no data to back this up but just taking a stab in the dark - a possible reason might be because people generally tend to prefer learning from someone talking about the subject matter?

I know most all of us here are techies and very used to cracking open books and documentation and text tutorials to teach ourselves stuff, but many people are not like that and especially if you're new to a subject, sometimes books just don't help things to click as well for some reason.

There's probably something to do with the way material is structured and presented differently between talking about it and writing about it, but I wouldn't know what to say about it.

I dunno, just a guess because it's an interesting observation to think about.


Reading has been my main source of education. As I grow as an engineer, I find that books become more and more valuable. I'm at a place where the internet rarely provides the answers I need on deeper technical topics, instead I'm reading from the best books I can find almost daily, and it works for me.

In other areas, I've learned tons about history and other topics, by reading. What other form of knowledge transfer is better? Video? The books I read would fill thousands of hours of video.


Call me old school but after watching numerous people try and fail to learn online with courses and especially YouTube videos, I'm pretty convinced that to learn ideally people need to read textbooks.

This isn't a question of learning styles - and I do believe that online courses and videos are valuable supplementary materials. But none of them compare in richness and direction to a well written and organized book.

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