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My main point from above:

> I do get frustrated seeing these sorts of vague cynical quips levying *specific* accusations based more upon a gut plausibility of a scenario rather than a clear outline of information.



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My main point from above:

> I do get frustrated seeing these sorts of vague cynical quips levying *specific* accusations based more upon a gut plausibility of a scenario rather than a clear outline of information.


My main point from above:

> I do get frustrated seeing these sorts of vague cynical quips levying *specific* accusations based more upon a gut plausibility of a scenario rather than a clear outline of information.


The specific attack comes off as petty and baseless.

Seems kind of presumptively critical and assuming malice. Some people are just verbose.

Hmm, didn't get that vibe at all. Tone came off as a little exasperated to me, but mostly all about giving enough background to back up the claims

I love how vague they all are. They might as well have said "We have a bad feeling about the world" or "We consulted an ouija board" as justifications. Do they really think a normal person reads these and accepts the reasoning?

Oh yeah, I mean, I'm not saying I disagree with adding detail, I can just see the impulse to not, since anything you say may or may not be true.

I don't find it implicit and feel it has a tinge of hubris. Too much is reported as fact, and taken as such, when it's just a best guess.

I find that worse, it suggests something is known definitely to have happened but it's being described in an unusual way. In any case I'm not sure this is the time for such conversations.

Maybe it's just me, but when I read that accusing tone, I saw that as a tongue in cheek.

Like a fake news coverage for a super villain.

Or perhaps I'm super blind for not seeing the obvious attempt at discrediting the practice.


The problem is there’s a lot of conjecture concerning intentions and thats basically unprovable.

Some parts feel sensationalized for the sake of theater.


That was my take too. There are a few points to specific people but not specific claims, or really how they're unlikely (this is all probabilities), just that they seem silly to the author.

Most of these assumptions seem crazy to me and this just feels like blog spam more than truth.

There's something that particularly bothers me about Goodfellow's article. He condescends about crazy theories while making ridiculous assumption after ridiculous assumption while acting very authoritative about each one. Just because his theory is less "sexy" (it doesn't involve hijacking or terrorists or suicide) doesn't make it any more valid. I'm appreciative of commentary that urges a more prudent approach, not a condescending and equally implausible theory that happens to be boring.

It's not an appeal to consequences ("it would be horrifying if this were true") but to absurdity ("believing this would require us to believe all these implausible things").

I can't really argue with that. Blast you.

There isn't enough information in the story to know what was really going on. Some possible contexts are a lot more venial than others. I think what irritated me was just the gloating tone of "we sure put one over on them"... but perhaps they didn't mean it that way.


What is the value of the poster's feelings about this, when we can rely on actual information instead? Appending "likely" to the statement is just a way to dress up a baseless opinion in the garb of objectivity.

Quite a few assumptions going on there that seem to be coming from a bitter place...

Likewise, I always see these statements and they come across very disingenuous.
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